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[00:34:55] <azaghal> Night all
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[00:55:13] <falcnor> o/
[00:55:17] <falcnor> I'm invading!
[00:55:19] <Tucos> \o
[00:55:23] <BSDeepa> o/
[01:05:30] <Tucos> what made you invade this channel, falcnor? :p
[01:06:05] <falcnor> Trying to help BSDeepa out, but he's being difficult. :P
[01:06:19] <Tucos> aha
[01:06:28] <BSDeepa> I'm a very sensitive person! I just can't break a promise!
[01:07:04] <Tucos> what's the point of making a promise if you ain't gonna break it?
[01:07:08] <falcnor> I'm not worried about you breaking an NDA to tell me a name of a game you may or may not being helping with. :P
[01:07:17] <Tucos> TitA?
[01:08:00] <Tucos> i don't see a deepa on the list there ; http://www.tempestintheaether.com/index.php/the-team.html
[01:08:31] <BSDeepa> Oh so THAT'S waht TitA is
[01:09:05] <Tucos> doh
[01:09:14] <BSDeepa> Someone should be shot for this: http://www.tempestintheaether.com/index.php/public-web-svn.html
[01:09:20] <Tucos> doh
[01:10:46] <BSDeepa> http://www.tempestintheaether.com/index.php/documentation.html - documentation isn't looking too good either
[01:10:51] <Easton> damn, they got two semutaras!
[01:10:52] <BSDeepa> Project DirectorXilliXConceptual LeadersXilliX (Writing)Rob "Ulf" Walker (Art)Keith "Vengeance" (Engine)Gustav "Katu" Holberg (Music)MrGadget
[01:11:14] <falcnor> That's a Xillix project?
[01:11:36] <BSDeepa> http://www.tempestintheaether.com/index.php/licence.html - has ugly and broken links to the left
[01:11:47] <falcnor> Licence is spelled wrong
[01:11:48] <BSDeepa> linebreaks in image buttons \o/
[01:11:56] <falcnor> License*
[01:12:09] <BSDeepa> Isn't licence actually a word?
[01:12:33] <falcnor> British english I guess so
[01:12:52] <BSDeepa> Trac has the usual default front-page, not very helpful
[01:13:03] <BSDeepa> Lacks a logo as usual
[01:14:13] <Tucos> the whole project stinks :p
[01:14:19] <BSDeepa> Oh
[01:14:36] <Tucos> licence is chiefly british
[01:14:36] <falcnor> BSDeepa not giving me any more hints as to what game he likes a petition system from stinks...
[01:14:48] <Tucos> oh
[01:14:50] <Tucos> that's just peragro
[01:14:57] <BSDeepa> Seems like TR, PS, PT and TitA are like one large group with intermixed groups
[01:15:00] <Tucos> http://wiki.peragro.org/index.php/Petition_system
[01:15:00] <falcnor> No it ain't :P
[01:15:16] <falcnor> Because there is no system :P
[01:15:18] <BSDeepa> Tucos: did I mention that I'm ripping off another system that was completly awesome :p?
[01:15:27] <falcnor> See!
[01:15:30] <Tucos> oh, in that sense
[01:15:44] <falcnor> And he wants comments ideas, thoguhts, but won't tell me what system so I can have a gander.
[01:15:55] <Tucos> aha
[01:15:57] <BSDeepa> I don't think you have access to it anyways
[01:16:11] <falcnor> WAR made you check out FAQ first, so did CoH
[01:16:23] <falcnor> How would you know BSDeepa
[01:16:39] <BSDeepa> Like I said, you'd recognize the terminology directly
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[01:16:53] <falcnor> Well if I had seen it sure.
[01:16:55] <Tucos> deepa isn't in #pilife , so it's probably not dawntide either :p
[01:17:37] <falcnor> But to know the system I'd have to actually have seen it. And can't do that without knowing the game, to get to the system to try it out etc.
[01:17:37] <BSDeepa> It's commercial
[01:17:53] <Tucos> ees eet WoW? :p
[01:18:01] <BSDeepa> Nein
[01:18:03] <falcnor> WoW's petition system blows
[01:18:11] <BSDeepa> Besides, WoW got paid GMs don't they?
[01:18:14] <falcnor> So does EQs EQ2
[01:18:19] <falcnor> Yes and no
[01:18:29] <falcnor> Most are CSRs
[01:18:41] <falcnor> Some are devs and some are volunteers.
[01:18:50] <falcnor> Some are just friends of devs.
[01:18:56] <BSDeepa> Oh
[01:19:09] <BSDeepa> I reckon that might be a fun game to GM
[01:19:13] <BSDeepa> Considering the maturity of players
[01:19:14] * BSDeepa snickers
[01:19:18] * falcnor wasn't a GM, but was in the top guild whom beta'd all raid content for devs.
[01:20:03] <BSDeepa> Well, I were a volunteer
[01:20:06] <falcnor> So we have commercial license
[01:20:07] <BSDeepa> Not in WoW ofc
[01:20:20] <falcnor> Not going to even give me a release date?
[01:20:32] * falcnor is dieing for a good MMO to sink his teeth into again as well.
[01:20:36] <falcnor> I just hate paying fees.
[01:20:53] <BSDeepa> I find that AO is one of the best F2P MMOs you'll find
[01:20:56] <falcnor> If I could keep a couple instances of EVE running, I'd pay for it with ISK.
[01:21:16] <falcnor> I tried it out in beta. Was bummed how craptastic the system was.
[01:21:25] <BSDeepa> AO or EVE?
[01:21:29] <falcnor> I'm sure it's much better now with tech advances since beta.
[01:21:30] <falcnor> AO
[01:21:35] <falcnor> Love EVE's system.
[01:21:37] <BSDeepa> Wasn't AO beta a long long time ago?
[01:21:48] <falcnor> Wish there was an emu for it. I'd be doing ALL I can to contribute.
[01:21:59] <falcnor> Yep like errr 6 years ago now?
[01:22:09] <BSDeepa> Probaly more, it was released in 2001
[01:22:18] <BSDeepa> F2P started in 2004
[01:22:19] <falcnor> Oh hrmm wow
[01:22:39] <falcnor> It's been that long? I suppose so.
[01:22:58] <falcnor> Left EQ in 2000 for a bit and was in a few betas then.
[01:23:42] <falcnor> Ok this is driving me nuts. If you're mimicing a system, are a volunteer and not even getting paid it must be a decent game.
[01:23:50] <falcnor> Well, maybe not. I volunteered on a MUD for 5 years. Heh
[01:24:11] <BSDeepa> I didn't volunteer for long, life forced itself upon me
[01:24:15] <falcnor> Anyway, I really can't help ya out much Deepa unless I can see the syste,.
[01:24:32] <falcnor> And my parents just got here.
[01:24:34] <falcnor> See see yas!
[01:24:38] <BSDeepa> Ciao
[01:24:47] <falcnor> So see yas*
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[01:25:07] <Tucos> ...
[01:25:10] <Tucos> houdoe
[01:26:09] <Tucos> hm ... bed, devel or game
[01:27:07] <BSDeepa> help me devel my game
[01:27:09] <BSDeepa> I got stuck in a conversation
[01:27:29] <Tucos> lawlurgame
[01:30:53] <BSDeepa> game and game
[01:30:55] <BSDeepa> it's an ircrpg
[01:31:43] <Tucos> orly
[01:31:54] <BSDeepa> http://www.armchairs.be/~deepy/ircrpg/users.txt
[01:32:03] <Tucos> already saw that
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[05:08:13] <Underthemoon> WHA HA
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[09:01:08] <sueastside> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/digital-drugs/
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[10:03:41] <circeavalon> gggrrrrr
[10:04:38] <|Arerano|> o_o
[10:16:40] <circeavalon> yeah...
[10:16:53] <circeavalon> >.o
[10:17:23] <|Arerano|> >_>
[10:22:01] <|Arerano|> What was the growling about?
[10:28:48] <circeavalon> boyfriend trouble..mostly staying awake to talk to someone who is busy
[10:30:51] <|Arerano|> I see
[10:33:38] <|Arerano|> and the topic is important?
[10:46:52] <circeavalon> no..just his opinion
[10:47:21] * circeavalon wants chinese
[10:47:36] <circeavalon> *food*
[10:47:42] <|Arerano|> chinese, like chinese people, or ... yeah food :P
[10:48:27] <|Arerano|> you're staying up because you want his oppinion about chinese food?
[10:49:54] <circeavalon> no, these are separate thoughts
[10:50:02] <|Arerano|> ah, ok.
[10:50:42] <circeavalon> i might murder for sushi though
[10:51:09] <|Arerano|> I was in a similar position myself, a few times. But I usually stood up, just because I didn't feel to go to bed alone.
[10:51:33] <circeavalon> yeah, sushi makes me like that
[10:52:16] <|Arerano|> >_>
[10:52:24] <|Arerano|> I really meant just not alone
[10:52:40] <|Arerano|> I don't eat sushi.
[10:53:12] <circeavalon> is it weird that I want chinese/sushi when I watch anime and I want earl grey and crumpets when I watch anything from BBC?
[10:54:14] <circeavalon> and huge sandwiches when I eat scooby doo :P
[10:54:21] <circeavalon> watch*
[10:54:24] <|Arerano|> XD
[10:54:41] <|Arerano|> a huge sandwich to put scooby doo into? :P
[10:55:10] <|Arerano|> In Austria, we call them "hot dogs" :P
[10:55:47] <circeavalon> i like to eat like shaggy and scooby and they always make huge awesome sandwiches that transcend the laws of physics
[10:57:02] <|Arerano|> Why is it always that the most delicious things have the most calories in them? >_<
[10:57:41] <circeavalon> cause calories make things taste good
[10:59:03] * thebolt points out that sushi isn't chinese though.. and 95% of the chinese food you get in us/europe isn't anything like the real thing :P
[10:59:03] <circeavalon> sooooo tired
[10:59:57] * circeavalon points out that even though that is true she still loves to eat the food in combination whether it is 'real' or not
[11:00:07] <|Arerano|> thebolt: nobody said that sushi is chinese food.
[11:00:54] <|Arerano|> Grrr!
[11:01:11] <thebolt> |Arerano|: no, i know (even though you could interpret it a bit like that imo ;)
[11:02:00] <circeavalon> I make sushi, I make 'real' chinese as best I can..I know it isn't anything like at a restaurant :P
[11:02:30] <circeavalon> I want to make Thai food really bad too
[11:03:03] <circeavalon> and this pork bun recipe I found sounds fun
[11:03:03] <|Arerano|> thebolt: maybe you should have pointed out that anime isn't chinese either ;P In fact, "chinese" is the part that doesn't quite fit. Not sushi.
[11:03:59] <|Arerano|> I get real asian food every now and then.
[11:04:33] <|Arerano|> It's really good, but if you never had it, you may have to get used to it.
[11:04:37] <thebolt> |Arerano|: yea, but the connection "i want chinese food - i want sushi" ;)
[11:04:40] <thebolt> heh yea, definitely
[11:04:50] <circeavalon> I wish I had someone to cook it for me that knew from years of experiance
[11:05:28] <thebolt> i've had real chinese maybe once every two months the last year.. before that every day for a year, and after october pretty much every day again ;)
[11:05:50] <circeavalon> thebolt, send me someone to cook it for me
[11:05:59] <thebolt> circeavalon: sorry, cannot do :P
[11:06:08] <circeavalon> thebolt, WHY????
[11:06:52] <thebolt> cause the person who have been cooking for me during this year is not here anymore (and her i wish to keep close, not send to you :P)
[11:07:37] <circeavalon> if you really love her then send her to me and if she comes back it's meant to be, right? :P
[11:07:51] <thebolt> (and last year, well, it was different restaurant most days)
[11:08:00] <|Arerano|> My boss's girlfriend is from Thailand. She often cooks for me too.
[11:08:24] <circeavalon> |Arerano|, share!
[11:09:09] <thebolt> circeavalon: well, it seems like it isn't anyhow :P
[11:09:36] <thebolt> circeavalon: go to china or taiwan, ther eyou get real chinese food everywhere :)
[11:09:39] <|Arerano|> yeah, sure :P
[11:10:30] <circeavalon> I can't make it cause my sister is allergic to everything (crustaceans, peanuts, coconut etc)
[11:11:00] <circeavalon> thebolt, yeah let me get right to that..since I live in Kansas
[11:11:17] <thebolt> circeavalon: i live in sweden.. i'll go there in october ;)
[11:11:26] <thebolt> it is about as far as from kansas
[11:11:40] * circeavalon punches thebolt
[11:12:06] <thebolt> hey, what was that for?
[11:12:43] <circeavalon> yeah since I make tons of money being a huge bum I'll get on that
[11:12:55] <thebolt> i don't make any money either :(
[11:13:14] <circeavalon> enough to send your ass there in october
[11:13:15] <thebolt> last time i had income was in june, when i got ~200 USD from swedish study support system.. last time I got any
[11:13:24] <thebolt> old savings
[11:13:29] <thebolt> and i have a one way ticket :P
[11:13:43] <circeavalon> well I'm an american and we are horrible with savings
[11:14:00] <thebolt> i have some saved to get me back if i really need to.. but i cannot live more than a few months before i need to start having an income ;)
[11:14:00] <circeavalon> one way...grrr
[11:14:27] <circeavalon> I hate school
[11:14:48] <circeavalon> I just want to move to Europe
[11:14:53] <circeavalon> now
[11:14:59] <circeavalon> NOW
[11:15:53] <circeavalon> I'm impatient
[11:19:55] * circeavalon wants Okonomiyaki
[11:20:35] <circeavalon> I can't wait till my cabbage is ready so I can use it in my okonomiyaki
[11:21:05] <thebolt> circeavalon: yea, it isn't for real if you have a return ticket :P
[11:21:19] <circeavalon> I know
[11:21:36] <circeavalon> :'(
[11:22:14] <circeavalon> fine boys, have a good rest of the day, I'm turning in for the night/early morning
[11:22:30] <circeavalon> goodnight!/early morning!
[11:28:39] <thebolt> sleep well
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[11:47:38] <|Arerano|> It's interesting that everyone seems to feel the urge to move elsewhere.
[11:47:47] <|Arerano|> Out of their country.
[11:51:22] <thebolt> hehe
[11:51:36] <thebolt> well, it is nice to see and experience new places
[11:54:17] <|Arerano|> Yes, but it seems like most want to leave their country for good.
[11:54:48] <thebolt> not me.. but for a couple of years, sure
[11:55:00] <thebolt> and well, i am not really attached to this place just because i grew up here
[11:55:15] <thebolt> and in total i have lived 25 years here.. time to live somewhere else for 25 years ;-)
[12:06:18] <brankom> How hard would it be to get a job with knowledge of security systems, certificates (X.509) and similar stuff?
[12:28:44] <thebolt> �11:51� + thebolt - well, it is nice to see and experience new places
[12:28:44] <thebolt> �11:54� |Arerano| - Yes, but it seems like most want to leave their country for good.
[12:28:47] <thebolt> bah, sorry
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