[00:00:20] <amogorkon> which year is it for you?
[00:01:19] <BSDeepa> It's Vista time
[00:01:37] <BSDeepa> I dare to put anything heavier than notepad on this computer
[00:01:44] <BSDeepa> I'm scared to*
[00:02:50] <BSDeepa> And if you promise not to scream I can show you the horrible mess
[00:03:03] <amogorkon> no thanks
[00:03:11] <amogorkon> i know how screwed up computers look like
[00:03:17] <BSDeepa> Oh it's not a computer
[00:03:23] <BSDeepa> It's a ~450 line bot
[00:03:27] <amogorkon> oh
[00:03:28] <BSDeepa> That uses sqlite
[00:03:35] <amogorkon> yeah, and? ;p
[00:03:44] <BSDeepa> It struck me that I lost track of the vonersation
[00:03:46] <BSDeepa> conversation*
[00:03:54] <BSDeepa> I replied to something you haven't said
[00:04:00] <amogorkon> lol
[00:04:50] <BSDeepa> Offer still stands!
[00:05:06] <amogorkon> coroutines are a way to suspend functions during execution and resume them at a later point from outside
[00:05:22] <BSDeepa> Oh
[00:05:35] <BSDeepa> I'm not sure I need that, I handle everything inside the bot
[00:05:50] <amogorkon> functions.. as in defs
[00:06:06] <amogorkon> unlike threads however, they are not concurrent, so only one coroutine can be executed at the same time
[00:06:21] <amogorkon> which is also called cooperating thread
[00:06:28] <BSDeepa> I know what functions are
[00:06:50] <amogorkon> as the function gives up control by itself
[00:07:16] <azaghal> What's the advantage of it?
[00:07:17] <BSDeepa> I'm not sure how that's useful in this bot
[00:07:56] <amogorkon> azaghal, it's much lighter than threads and faster than class-instances
[00:09:20] <amogorkon> you also avoid all the pitfalls of threads like locking
[00:09:39] <BSDeepa> http://www.armchairs.be/~deepy/rpg.py
[00:09:42] <BSDeepa> please don't send it to people
[00:09:46] <BSDeepa> but also notice that it's not using threads
[00:10:25] <BSDeepa> Also, you're not allowed to shoot me when it comes to the shop things
[00:11:21] <BSDeepa> I followed the "code first, design later"
[00:11:44] <Tucos> "please don't send it to people" is kindof a moot thing in a publicly logged channel ;)
[00:12:04] <BSDeepa> Ah yes, but I'm the author and it's my bot :D
[00:12:09] <BSDeepa> And that link will die soon
[00:12:40] <amogorkon> google cache ftw ;)
[00:12:49] <BSDeepa> I also just replaced it with a flash file
[00:12:55] <BSDeepa> so google won't have enough time to cache it!
[00:13:46] <BSDeepa> Any comments on my ingenious ways of solving logins?
[00:16:20] <amogorkon> i agree, it's a mess
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[00:21:19] <amogorkon> you don't use deferreds for the whois?
[00:21:34] <amogorkon> you're pretty trusty..
[00:23:26] <amogorkon> interesting solution for the html
[00:25:16] <BSDeepa> For what whois?
[00:25:26] <BSDeepa> whois doesn't exist in twisted 8.1 :p
[00:25:41] <amogorkon> def whois(self, nickname, server=None):
[00:25:48] <BSDeepa> Yes I can do that
[00:25:53] <BSDeepa> But nobody has figured out how to get the results yet
[00:25:58] <BSDeepa> and I've asked #twisted three times now
[00:26:00] <amogorkon> lol
[00:26:03] <BSDeepa> I'm gonna replace the html solution with jinja2 as soon as I get a skin
[00:26:25] <amogorkon> so how do you get the accounts from the nickserv then?
[00:27:13] <amogorkon> if you take a look at pelican, you'll find how i get the whois
[00:28:37] <amogorkon> you need to know the server reply codes for this. ircd-seven uses 330 for RPL_WHOISLOGGEDIN
[00:28:54] <amogorkon> so you need to implement irc_unknown and check there for 330
[00:29:21] <amogorkon> at least in ircd-seven accounts are available via whois
[00:29:31] <amogorkon> may vary from server to server
[00:32:05] <azaghal> Night all
[00:32:13] <amogorkon> night azaghal
[00:32:52] <amogorkon> BSDeepa, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~d-launchpad-anselm-kiefner-de/pelican-bot/main/annotate/head:/pbot_interface_irc.py
[00:33:30] <amogorkon> line 112 was the previous implementation of "whois" via nickserv
[00:33:46] <amogorkon> until i found out that /whois also gets the account
[00:33:55] <amogorkon> which is way more elegant on ircd-seven
[00:34:38] <amogorkon> just as an example
[00:39:21] <amogorkon> you could replace the long list of elifs in rpg_checklevel by a dict, btw
[00:43:42] <amogorkon> in the form level = {1:lambda exp: exp >= 100}
[00:43:55] <amogorkon> called level[1](exp)
[00:45:12] <amogorkon> should be much faster and elegant (and extendable during runtime)
[00:53:04] <amogorkon> you realize the keeping of states related to objects via the db.. that works with a simple system, but it won't be very fast.
[00:53:40] <amogorkon> for instance if you wanted to tell whether a door is open of closed, you could implement that as a coroutine instead of a db access
[00:53:49] <amogorkon> a trivial example
[00:53:58] <amogorkon> or*
[01:07:47] <BSDeepa> amogorkon: I rely on +R
[01:07:58] <BSDeepa> Since only registered people can message me I know that they are registered if they message me
[01:08:05] <amogorkon> ah.
[01:08:10] <BSDeepa> aka. I'm very trusting that the services won't go down
[01:09:06] <BSDeepa> And I plan to have a dictionary with the users incase I need to store a lot about them
[01:09:15] <BSDeepa> But you say the WHOIS gets you account too?
[01:09:32] <BSDeepa> Oh well that's a letdown
[01:09:39] <BSDeepa> I tried everything except irc_RPL_
[01:10:24] <Tucos> whois has a line which goes "x is logged in as b" if he's identified
[01:10:32] <Tucos> raw looks different ofcourse ^^
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[01:53:46] <BSDeepa> It's network dependant isn't it?
[01:55:17] <Tucos> probably
[01:56:32] <BSDeepa> and responses vary depending on network don't they?
[01:57:52] <Tucos> some do
[01:58:59] <BSDeepa> Oh come on, you can't be vague here :p
[01:59:03] <BSDeepa> They probaly vary
[01:59:16] <Tucos> of course i can be vague
[01:59:32] <Tucos> if you stick to rfc 1459 you'd be good with most ircds
[01:59:44] <BSDeepa> When somebody asks a yes or no question, asparagus is not a valid answer!
[01:59:45] <Tucos> anything that's not in there or in newer rfc's is likely to differ
[01:59:54] <BSDeepa> iirc, account isn't in 1459
[01:59:57] <Tucos> then i wasn't vague, but too specific
[02:00:04] <Tucos> it's not, rfc doesn't know about services
[02:00:20] <Tucos> hence, those probably are different accross ircds
[02:00:34] <Tucos> but "responses" (in general) don't all vary across all ircds
[02:23:56] <Tucos> BSDeepa: you were just mentioned in #freenode :p
[02:24:12] <BSDeepa> I were?
[02:24:13] <BSDeepa> What was the topic?
[02:24:18] <Tucos> #natasha
[02:24:27] <BSDeepa> the channel?
[02:24:31] <BSDeepa> Since the bots are kinda dead
[02:25:10] <Tucos> yeah, someone claimed he "lost" that channel ; either he's filing a GRF or he'll be contacting you soon :)
[02:25:17] <BSDeepa> lost it?
[02:25:19] <BSDeepa> I've had it for like years
[02:25:58] <Tucos> 3 years, 42 weeks, 0 days, 06 hours, 32 minutes and 07 seconds
[02:26:03] <Tucos> +quite a few seconds by now :p
[02:26:06] <BSDeepa> 3 years and no complaints
[02:26:18] <Tucos> dunno what he meant, but he'll be filing a grf, i think
[02:33:25] <Tucos> BSDeepa: for instance, you can rely on 311-319 being consistent across networks (of course there might be an exception to that) ; http://irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/chapter6.html lists all numerics which should be somewhat reliable if they're common
[02:55:34] <BSDeepa> That I know
[02:57:19] <BSDeepa> Tucos: he didn't "lose" it somehow
[02:57:24] <BSDeepa> I registered the channel before he joined the network
[02:57:32] <Tucos> i know
[03:00:08] <Tucos> gnight
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[07:13:44] <thebolt> Morning
[07:15:27] <azaghal> Yo
[07:15:35] <azaghal> Getting ready for work ;)
[07:18:57] <thebolt> at work already :P
[07:22:45] <sueastside> yeah, jeez azaghal how long do you sleep
[07:50:28] <azaghal> sueastside: More than you :)
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[09:53:31] <brankom> Yo
[09:56:12] <circeavalon> hoe
[10:06:05] <brankom> Gee thanks
[10:06:47] <circeavalon> welcome
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[10:18:28] <brankom> When's sueastside coming over?
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[11:23:59] <sueastside> brankom: she doesnt let me come over her
[11:44:35] <circeavalon> brankom, 4 days
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[12:33:37] <Tucos> \o
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[14:20:22] <Tucos> bloody shaders :<
[14:38:21] <sueastside> Tucos: bloody crappy drivers :P
[14:38:40] <Tucos> obviously, but shaders are a mess to work with too
[14:47:57] <sueastside> yeah
[14:48:33] <Tucos> getting a fancy "No matching input found and no default given for 'position4_object position' of snippet 'shared<10> -> staticspecular<100> -> ets<100> -> eyeVecO'" now (a lot of 'em)
[14:48:54] <Tucos> and it says teh fixed function thing works, but all's black as always :p
[14:48:56] <Tucos> gtg
[14:50:52] <sueastside> cu later
[14:51:44] <brankom> Heheh
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[15:00:18] <sueastside> wb Induane
[15:00:55] <Induane> howdy dootie pootie ooutie
[15:03:07] <thebolt> hi indy
[15:03:09] <thebolt> how's it going?
[15:07:10] <Induane> not too shabby
[15:07:30] <Induane> filled out my application for the teaching position and got fingerprinted for my background check
[15:07:32] <Induane> so moving forward wel
[15:07:36] <Induane> how are you?
[15:08:26] <sueastside> Induane: guess they'll find out about that time in mexico...
[15:08:36] <thebolt> warm, unmotivated, busy ;)
[15:12:43] <Induane> sueastside: nah, those mexican hookers were illiterate and had no tongues
[15:14:27] <sueastside> Induane: no, i'm talking about those female midgets with goatees
[15:14:46] <Induane> sueastside: I want to have an "update status" for an order listed on a page. Is it possible to have two modelforms on the same page? I don't see how that would work.
[15:14:50] <Induane> teehee
[15:14:54] <Induane> yea those goatees tickled
[15:14:56] <Induane> it was weird
[15:15:12] <Induane> Too bad they managed to get tangled up in that boat anchor
[15:15:23] <Induane> I kind of felt bad. Wasn't anything we could have done to save them though :(
[15:16:02] <sueastside> Induane: you could have not tied them to that boat anchor in the first place...
[15:16:18] <Induane> No it was a tragedy not murder!
[15:16:28] <Induane> They were drunk and thought the mast was a may pole
[15:16:40] <Induane> Then started using anchor rope to decorate it
[15:17:11] <Induane> eventually the helmsman passed out and accidentally hit the lever to begin hoisting the anchor which by then was tied to the mast along with the midgets....
[15:17:17] <Induane> it ripped the mast off, broke the winch
[15:17:29] <CyaNox6> sueastside: Tucos never pm'ed me.
[15:17:29] <sueastside> Induane: with two modelforms, do you mean same modelclass, related model classes, different model classes?
[15:17:30] <Induane> and midgets, anchor, and mast all sunk to the bottom of the ocean
[15:17:52] <Induane> we had to hacksaw through the chain to keep it from taking the boat down :(
[15:17:56] <Induane> Related classes
[15:18:04] <sueastside> CyaNox6: yeah i know, hi btw :)
[15:18:08] <Induane> there is an order model and units model - the units are related to the order model
[15:18:12] <Induane> hi CyaNox6!!
[15:18:31] <Induane> YOu are yummy in my tummy!
[15:18:34] <Induane> I mean
[15:18:36] <Induane> sup?
[15:18:38] <thebolt> hi CyaNox6 , how's it going?
[15:18:48] <Induane> sueastside: the orderclass has a field for status that is a dropdown
[15:19:02] <sueastside> Induane: well inlineformset does it somehow...
[15:19:23] <Induane> I wanted at the top under the order number which displays above the page to add units via a modelform for the units, to have that dropdown with status options and a button that said "update status" or somesuch
[15:19:46] <Induane> sueastside: yes, they do indeed so I knew it was possible but I didn't know if they were using modelforms
[15:20:21] <CyaNox6> I'm quite fine ... doing ym final checkupontheservers before heading on a month vacation.
[15:20:43] <sueastside> CyaNox6: france?
[15:21:43] <sueastside> Induane: all i can say is : 'huh?' explain again when i get there :P
[15:21:55] <sueastside> too warm for thinking..
[15:21:56] <CyaNox6> sueastside: Italy actually
[15:23:02] <Japje> CyaNox6: !
[15:23:06] <Japje> bazinga!
[15:23:13] <CyaNox6> Japje: Bloop!
[15:23:25] <Japje> you going on holiday?
[15:23:31] <CyaNox6> uhu
[15:23:34] <Japje> nice!
[15:23:41] <Japje> chilling, in the sun, drinking beer
[15:23:44] <Japje> (Y)
[15:23:48] <Japje> wtf
[15:23:52] <Japje> that was a msn smiley :\
[15:23:58] * sueastside drowns Japje in the ballbath
[15:24:03] <Japje> anywayz, how are you?
[15:24:36] <thebolt> CyaNox6: vacation.. bah :P
[15:24:38] <CyaNox6> Japje: Good,but gotta do some stuff soon.
[15:24:56] <CyaNox6> As this is my last day in NL :P
[15:25:00] <Japje> hehe
[15:25:12] <Japje> have a good holiday!
[15:25:16] <Japje> drink one on me
[15:25:35] <sueastside> CyaNox6: camping, rome, maffia biz, cooking course, mediterranean lovin',...?
[15:26:10] <CyaNox6> Japje: I'll do that ...
[15:26:34] <CyaNox6> sueastside: Your weird ;)
[15:26:57] <CyaNox6> But I hope to have some fun. I'llmostlikelybe tweeting a lot during vacation.
[15:28:05] <sueastside> CyaNox6: or maybe some sales shopping, the italian gov confiscated like 1.3billion euros of stuff from the maffia, maybe they're selling it cheap?
[15:30:05] * sueastside could use a cocaine mansion and some pantsered vehicles
[15:30:23] <Induane> ok I think I see how to do it
[15:30:29] <Induane> seperate ifs for valid
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[16:22:36] <Induane> is there any way in django to find out what the value of the submit button was ?
[16:22:45] <Induane> I want to know which button was pressed and check for that in the view
[16:27:11] <sueastside> Induane: if the submit button has a name, it should be in the GET data iirc
[16:27:29] <sueastside> Time to go.
[16:30:52] <Induane> I don't want get data!
[16:30:55] <Induane> post data!
[16:30:57] <Induane> ;)
[16:31:01] <Induane> unless there is both
[16:31:07] <Induane> I'm not really sure how that all works
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[17:05:02] <brankom> Off ;)
[17:10:00] <BSDeepa> Induane: django is <3
[17:10:29] <BSDeepa> GET data is stuff like ?cat=meow&meow=sound
[17:10:32] <BSDeepa> I think
[17:16:57] <Induane> I know
[17:17:01] <Induane> but I'm using post data
[17:17:05] <Induane> I odn't need urls for this
[17:17:10] <Induane> its a one field status update
[17:17:15] <Induane> but I need to know which form to validate
[17:17:22] <Induane> and I need to know what form was pressed in that case
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[17:19:51] <Induane> because I keep validating both forms
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[17:20:50] <Induane> Xillix!
[17:21:03] <Induane> Captain Palindrome!
[17:21:38] <XilliX> greetings
[17:22:11] <Induane> What brings you along?
[17:24:02] <XilliX> I hang out here most days
[17:24:03] <XilliX> :)
[17:24:23] <XilliX> also I just got banned from planeshift-build in addition
[17:24:38] <XilliX> not very "open-source" thing to do I'd say.
[17:27:38] <XilliX> how is PT doing?
[17:29:15] <Induane> Well
[17:29:21] <Induane> new art asset manager is underway
[17:29:33] <Induane> and the new entity branch rewrite is all going well
[17:29:39] <Induane> component branch
[17:29:43] <Induane> azaghal has been working on that
[17:29:51] <Induane> vourne on the engine stuff
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[17:32:36] <Induane> I'm trying to change jobs so I can have more time with the kids and for PT art
[17:32:39] <Induane> :D
[17:32:58] <XilliX> neat
[17:33:01] <XilliX> :)
[17:33:11] <XilliX> sounds like pt is still having fun
[17:38:55] <Induane> We do
[17:39:03] <Induane> I'm looking at teaching
[17:39:07] <Induane> 3 months off a year
[17:39:10] <Induane> :)
[17:39:34] <Induane> would be nice
[17:39:39] <Induane> I never get breaks here
[17:39:48] <Induane> Had one real vacation in the last 7 years
[17:44:29] <XilliX> teaching is pretty good if you find the right place
[17:48:39] <Induane> Well there is an opening for middle school technology teacher at the school a couple blocks from my house
[17:48:44] <Induane> so that will be my first application
[17:49:23] <Induane> I've applied for an experience awarded teaching certificate
[17:49:34] <Induane> I've worked in IT for 7+ years
[17:52:16] <Induane> I've sent off for it :) hopefully it works out
[17:55:09] <thebolt> things tends to work out eventually, one way or another
[17:55:28] <Induane> I'm hoping so - it would be a job I think I could do really really well.
[17:55:38] <Induane> I could probably even expand their class options
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[18:52:17] <Induane> wb
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[19:10:36] <Induane> JohnTitor: !!!
[19:34:38] <Easton> Titties!
[19:34:44] <Easton> his new nickname
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[20:01:28] <Induane> hehhee
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[20:55:35] * circeavalon poke sueastside
[20:55:42] <thebolt> hi circeavalon
[20:56:23] <circeavalon> hello thebolt
[20:59:18] <circeavalon> Induane, could you pick up some milk?
[20:59:42] <Induane> I think so - going to be pressed for time - have to pick up Kerri and still get to the farm to spray the cows for pink eye
[21:00:01] <circeavalon> i thought she was staying till thursday
[21:00:22] <Induane> No I am pretty sure I"m picking her up today
[21:00:26] <Induane> Girls going to the pool soon?
[21:00:35] <Induane> one swimsuit is hanging up in the bathroom
[21:00:46] <circeavalon> ok..yeah, Amber is still taking them at 3
[21:00:55] <sueastside> silly cows, don't stand behind other cows when they fart...
[21:01:00] <circeavalon> I know where the swimsuits are
[21:01:34] <circeavalon> I don't know where Kerri ran off with the band aids... not to happy about that
[21:04:17] <Induane> Hmmm last time I saw her get one was the other day for Ariannas heels before we went to the birthday party
[21:06:46] <circeavalon> well I saw her run off with the entire book and I needed one today and didn't have one
[21:06:53] <circeavalon> box*
[21:09:49] <Induane> run off?
[21:09:55] <Induane> she took it in her purse or what?
[21:09:56] <circeavalon> out the door
[21:10:07] <Induane> men no idea what the plan was
[21:10:09] <circeavalon> with the box in her hand
[21:10:19] <circeavalon> me either
[21:10:21] <sueastside> the whole box!
[21:10:31] <circeavalon> I was like "she gonna need the whole box?
[21:10:54] <sueastside> she had to ask brant how to open it....
[21:11:20] <circeavalon> I guess she thought Nonna was gonna fling herself off a cliff and she wanted to be prepared
[21:11:51] <sueastside> she does that, should have never let her watch Telma and Louise
[21:12:02] <circeavalon> ...
[21:22:03] <Induane> how to open what?
[21:22:13] <Induane> the bandaid box?
[21:22:16] <Induane> I don't remember this..
[21:33:29] <Easton> epic conversation
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[21:45:57] <azaghal> Phew
[21:46:10] <azaghal> Yo
[21:47:14] <azaghal> She probably wanted to do some "bandage" with Induane...
[21:53:32] <Induane> it happens
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[22:20:48] <azaghal> sueastside: Do you reckon we could have _any_ kind of advantage in having all those network classes non-singleton?
[22:21:18] <thebolt> singletons are by principle evil (imo) :P
[22:22:18] <azaghal> Depends on the needs, I think.
[22:22:44] <azaghal> Sometimes you spend more time passing references to "global" objects instead.
[22:23:01] <azaghal> But the thing I was thinking about was if you'd ever want to have multiple "hubs" of network activity.
[22:25:18] <thebolt> well, the problems are usually related to lifetime and ownership
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[22:33:58] <azaghal> I think that for the most part I could isolate the shared object rather well, though.
[22:34:12] <azaghal> I.e. it _should_ be able to function quite well.
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[23:32:41] <Induane> bye everyone!!!!!!! <3
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