[00:05:15] <Tucos> PS used your snow shaders with some minor changes :)
[00:05:31] <azaghal> :O
[00:05:33] <azaghal> Omg!
[00:05:36] <azaghal> Stealzorz!
[00:05:48] <azaghal> Tucos: Did they preserve copyright notices?
[00:06:02] <Tucos> lemme check
[00:06:41] <Tucos> it's disturbing that i type "so" and chrome appends "ourceforge.net/projects/planeshift" o.O
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[00:07:06] <azaghal> One of these days we'll ban you unless you clear your url history...
[00:07:44] <Tucos> jelle hellemans is sueastside?
[00:07:47] <azaghal> Yes
[00:08:40] <azaghal> And?
[00:08:40] <Tucos> then he's mentioned
[00:09:05] <azaghal> Did they also write down the license it's issued under?
[00:09:08] <azaghal> (CC-BY-SA)
[00:09:18] <azaghal> I _think_ it's that one.
[00:09:26] <Tucos> it's GPL'ed http://planeshift.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/planeshift?revision=6007&view=revision and http://planeshift.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/planeshift/trunk/data/shader-snippets/surface/surface-snow.xml?view=markup&pathrev=6007
[00:09:27] * azaghal pokes sueastside when he wakes up to check
[00:10:26] <azaghal> I'm not sure I know what's the source of that file, to be honest.
[00:10:35] <azaghal> sueastside should check if it's under GPLv2 or CC-BY-SA
[00:11:11] <azaghal> But I'd say they respected the spirit of license, so it's not a real issue.
[00:11:14] <Tucos> cc-by-sa allows you to re-license and i think GPL is fine with that
[00:11:22] <Tucos> and it's a derivative anyway
[00:11:52] <azaghal> No, CC-BY-SA doesn't allow relicensing.
[00:11:55] <Tucos> but, yeah, the guy that did that is a nice one
[00:12:00] <azaghal> I.e. you have to keep the license.
[00:12:28] <azaghal> Anyway, heading off to bed ;)
[00:14:02] <Tucos> SA = share-alike, means you can license under any of the licenses from http://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses as per http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode; although at this point they didn't allow any license
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[00:19:15] <azaghal> 4. Restrictions. The license granted in Section 3 above is expressly made subject to and limited by the following restrictions:
[00:19:18] <azaghal> 1. You may Distribute or Publicly Perform the Work only under the terms of this License.
[00:19:36] <Tucos> under the _terms_ not the license
[00:21:16] <azaghal> [Please note that to date, Creative Commons has not approved any licenses for compatibility; however, we are hopeful that we may be able to do so in the future. If you would like to discuss the possible compatibility of your license with a Creative Commons license, please email us at info@creativecommons.org.]
[00:21:27] <azaghal> Regarding:
[00:21:27] <azaghal> You may Distribute or Publicly Perform an Adaptation only under the terms of: (i) this License; (ii) a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License; (iii) a Creative Commons jurisdiction license (either this or a later license version) that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g., Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 US)); (iv) a Creative Commons Compatible License
[00:21:33] <azaghal> Point (iv)
[00:31:48] <Tucos> which is exactly what i said
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[00:35:49] <azaghal> Oh, nvm
[00:35:54] <azaghal> I didn't read it until the end :)
[00:35:58] <azaghal> Night for sure now ;)
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[07:03:27] <swedishcoder> morning
[07:09:02] <circeavalon> you wake up this early..
[07:24:51] <swedishcoder> yeah, its already starting to be late...
[07:35:40] <thebolt> Morning
[07:36:13] * thebolt got up 1:15 ago, just got in after a combined walking/running 6km.. time to shower and get to work
[07:56:28] <circeavalon> thebolt is crazy
[07:57:22] <thebolt> hhe, quite possibly :P
[07:57:40] <swedishcoder> thebolt: I think it sounds like a great start of the day
[07:58:29] <thebolt> swedishcoder: well, i just started the running/walking last tuesday (did tuesday+friday last week, monday+wednesday so far this week, plan is mon+wed+fri) so still a bit painful :P
[07:59:16] <thebolt> now i better hurry so i catch the 8:30 train.. see you
[07:59:21] <swedishcoder> thebolt: cya
[08:22:50] <swedishcoder> time to work, cya
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[08:59:37] * circeavalon pokes sueastside
[09:05:40] * circeavalon stomps through the channel growling like Godzilla
[09:06:15] <circeavalon> *screech*
[09:06:56] * circeavalon smashes buses and buildings and eats aircraft
[09:11:29] <Tucos> moin
[09:25:56] <thebolt> b, hi again
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[09:27:34] <circeavalon> anyone see my geek b/f?
[09:27:41] * circeavalon pokes sueastside
[09:29:13] <thebolt> not for a couple of years ;)
[09:31:56] <circeavalon> really? years seems like a bit of a stretch
[09:32:58] <thebolt> nope, haven't seen him since the last CS conference in 2006
[09:42:53] <circeavalon> oh, well have you chatted him up recently?
[09:43:03] <circeavalon> thebolt, you saw him in person?
[09:43:31] <thebolt> yes
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[09:44:10] <thebolt> and haven't seen him since yesterday
[09:44:12] <thebolt> in here
[09:53:56] <circeavalon> thebolt, what does sueastside look like?
[09:55:01] <sueastside> handsome stud with a warm voice
[09:55:39] <circeavalon> really? I didn't know that you felt that way thebolt
[09:55:50] <circeavalon> oh, I mean, hey lover!
[09:56:12] <thebolt> haha, not my first way to describe sueastside , not even my second, but each to their own ;)
[09:56:13] <sueastside> thebolt: 07
[09:56:53] <thebolt> hm, ah, right, i saw you at caedes place, right? was that 07.. hm, my memory is bad :P
[09:58:03] <sueastside> thebolt: well at cs conf 07 (we stayed in the same hotel with jorrit, genjix, iceeey iirc) and at caedes in sept
[10:00:49] <thebolt> ahm, i thought we had conf 05+06.. but was it 06+07.. interesting :)
[10:01:06] <thebolt> don't trust my memory :P
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[10:04:35] <circeavalon> thebolt, you silly goose
[10:07:13] <thebolt> still, 2007 fits my initial comment of "not for a couple of years" ;)
[10:07:50] <circeavalon> thebolt, Is he really handsome of was he just blowing smoke up my ass?
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[10:31:57] <circeavalon> goodnight thebolt
[10:32:05] <circeavalon> see you guys all later
[10:38:58] <|Arerano|> bye
[10:39:14] <Tucos> hey thebolt, sueastside, brankom
[10:44:01] <brankom> Tucos: Yo
[10:45:02] <sueastside> hey brankom Tucos
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[11:02:54] <Tucos> sueastside: did you get yesterdays note of PS using your shader?
[11:03:02] <Tucos> s/shader/snow shader/
[11:04:24] <sueastside> Tucos: yeah, i know
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[16:24:44] <sueastside> Tucos: there, now they're behind again :P
[16:25:09] <Tucos> they already had rain :p
[16:25:20] <Tucos> make a proper fog, theirs crashes most people :D
[16:26:49] <sueastside> Tucos: well this one affects surfaces as well, makes them a bit darker and shiny when wet
[16:27:29] <Tucos> oooh
[16:28:14] <sueastside> also a model for evaporation, so things dry after a while when it stops raining
[16:28:33] <Tucos> oooh
[16:28:37] <sueastside> :P
[16:28:39] <Tucos> but that's the same as melting snow :p
[16:29:15] <sueastside> gtg
[16:29:31] <Tucos> later
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[16:33:56] <Induane> ok so which am I going to be better off with? An nvidia 9600 with 1GB ddr2 or a 9600 with 512 MB ddr2 ?
[16:34:02] <Induane> What a conundrum!
[16:35:18] <Tucos> huh?
[16:35:32] <Induane> have a pile of video cards here
[16:35:48] <Induane> up until now i'd still been using an 8800 test card from nvidia from before the 8800 even went on the market
[16:35:54] <Induane> now I have a pile of video cards to choose from
[16:35:58] <Tucos> i doubt the 9xxx series have ddr2 ... ?
[16:36:25] <Induane> pair of 512 mb 9500's to do sli with; a 9500 with 1gb; 9600 with 512; crapton of 8600s
[16:36:30] <Induane> lol
[16:36:30] <Tucos> and send one to me, my 8600GT is getting outdated :p
[16:36:49] <Tucos> sli is fail :p
[16:37:00] <Induane> well my 8 series is ddr2
[16:37:14] <Induane> and these cards say ddr2
[16:37:19] <Induane> pretty cerain
[16:37:22] <Induane> maybe n the 9600
[16:37:25] <Induane> not sure
[16:37:27] <Induane> where do you livelol
[16:37:33] <Tucos> NL
[16:38:14] <Tucos> hm, 9600 isn't being sold at the usual computer stuff shop
[16:38:33] <Induane> ok the 9600 is ddr3
[16:38:34] <Tucos> the 9500 has gddr2 :o
[16:38:48] <Induane> well gddr3 ;)
[16:38:51] <Induane> but yea
[16:39:10] <Induane> 9500 is gddr2 you're def right
[16:39:22] <Tucos> my Club3D 8600GT OC even has GDDR3 and i've seen gddr5 quite a few times now .. ? o.O
[16:39:23] <Induane> so the question begs which is faster
[16:40:01] <Induane> I'm assuming the gddr3 based 9600 might be the fastest
[16:40:12] <Induane> despite having less texture memory
[16:40:15] <Induane> hard to say
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[16:41:30] <Tucos> people seem to just say somethign random on gddr3 vs gddr5 :s
[16:42:06] <Induane> well one thing I remember is that while ram speed is important it often isn't really the biggest difference a lot of times
[16:43:39] <Tucos> it's increased bandwith but decreased latency .. blahblahblah :p
[16:44:40] <Induane> I remember benchmarking with pc's running a P4 with 1 GB of pc133 sdram vs a similar setup with 1gb ddr 266 thinking that the double data rate ram would be so much more cool and better and would trounce things but it turned out that the difference was negligible despite the ram and updated mobo. In fact 3dmark produced nearly identical stores. The rambus machine we concocted had a weird tendency to trounce ddr and sdram
[16:44:42] <Induane> in one test then turn around and get stomped in the next test
[16:44:56] <Induane> sometimes with rambus it would pull out scores nearly double that of the ddr
[16:45:03] <Induane> then later get outpaced by lower latency sdram
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[16:48:41] <Induane> welcome back sueastside
[16:48:52] <Induane> I think I am getting a nice pair of 23 inch dell screens for free
[16:48:58] <Induane> because they wee in a fire
[16:49:03] <Induane> so when I say nice I mean covered in soot
[16:49:07] <Induane> and the stuff from firefighter hose
[16:49:11] <Induane> and melted cases
[16:49:14] <Tucos> xD
[16:49:30] <Induane> by some insane miracle they still work fine
[16:49:50] <Induane> despite having gotten so hot that the pastic really genuinely melted
[16:49:51] <Tucos> take off the plastic stuff and put the screens in a cardboard box :p
[16:50:24] <Induane> hahha
[16:50:31] <Induane> nah I think I like the "melted" look
[16:50:36] <Induane> a pair of them is cool
[16:51:38] <Induane> I'll be giving kerri my old desktop :)
[16:51:48] <Induane> so she can edit photos and the like
[17:07:06] <Induane> sueastside: what do you think: Nvidia 9500gt w/1GB GDDR2 vs nVidia 9600GT w/512MB GDDR3
[17:07:08] <Induane> ?
[17:07:28] <Tucos> i'd take the 9500
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[17:21:11] <Induane> Oughta benchmark them :)
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[17:37:35] <Induane> I'm impressed by this PC actually, the amd x2 6000 seems to be a decent machine
[17:37:55] <Induane> running 64bit os though, that might be part of it - I compiled a few quick tests and they were really quick
[18:04:14] <Induane> omg omg omg
[18:04:19] <Induane> Or something
[18:04:42] <Tucos> gmo gmo gmo
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[18:32:26] <sueastside> Induane: 9600gt with gddr3
[18:33:03] <sueastside> Induane: less memory but higher bandwidth
[18:43:54] <Induane> ok
[18:44:00] <Induane> I'll make the "swap"
[18:44:09] <Induane> is the 9600 going to be better than my monster 8800 ?
[18:44:46] <Induane> It has 768 mb ram and well you've seen it - it requires 2 auxillary power connectors (the six pin kind)
[18:50:08] <sueastside> Induane: no, 9600 is really just a rebranded 8600
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[18:51:05] <Induane> I wondered
[18:51:34] <Induane> but I also wondered if it would be better simply because it didn't require a GIANT HEATSINK AND FAN and COPIOUS amounts of POWER!!!!!!
[18:52:52] <Induane> also the 8800 likes to kind of act funny - like in full 3d mode it stutters every 20 seconds
[18:53:01] <sueastside> Induane: 9 series were made on a smaller process iirc, so if heat and power is your concern go for it
[18:53:06] <Induane> and would two 9500's be better than on 8800 in sli mode?
[18:53:24] <Induane> I mean the two 9500's in sli mode vs 1 8800
[18:53:47] <sueastside> no, SLI blows and definitly with low end cards
[18:54:02] <Induane> The reason I ask is that all of these were configured in sli mode
[18:54:04] <Induane> its why there are so many
[18:54:54] <sueastside> Induane: dells?
[18:55:49] <Induane> No
[18:56:15] <Induane> crapload of generic machines - all with either dual core opteron 2.3 ghz processors, and a few single core, and some amd x2's
[18:56:19] <Induane> 3ghz
[18:57:12] <sueastside> weird, i could have sworn it was part of some marketing stunt :P
[18:59:11] <azaghal> Yo
[19:02:50] <Induane> sueastside WHAT?
[19:02:58] <Induane> azaghal: !!!!
[19:03:02] <Induane> <3 <3 <3
[19:03:07] <azaghal> Mee!
[19:03:08] <Induane> sueastside: <3 <3 </3
[19:03:11] <Induane> erm
[19:03:26] <Induane> well nevermind sorry about that one broken heart of mine jelle, too bad you broke it!
[19:03:26] <azaghal> What stunt?
[19:03:28] <Induane> *sniff*
[19:03:32] <Induane> stunt?
[19:03:37] <Induane> I don't know either
[19:03:40] <Induane> sueastside is being cryptic
[19:05:17] <sueastside> "Get yourself a badass gaming rig with SLI, 2 videocards, double the power" and then they stick shitty lowend stuff in there
[19:05:51] <sueastside> fucking headache :/
[19:06:01] <azaghal> Headache? Is she cute?
[19:07:47] <sueastside> Induane: when i'm over there, i'm challenging you to a Street Countdown!
[19:08:50] <Induane> wtf is that?
[19:10:10] <sueastside> It's more or less like regular Countdown, but its played on the street.
[19:11:10] <sueastside> Induane: you havent seen IT crowd season 4 yet have you?
[19:11:18] <Induane> Nope
[19:11:23] <Induane> I don't know what countdown is
[19:11:33] <Induane> and I havne't seen that season
[19:11:38] <sueastside> it's a tv-show
[19:12:31] <sueastside> and Moss won it and joined some secret club of winners
[19:19:15] <Induane> I know what tv-show it is goober
[19:19:25] <Induane> I want an EXPLANATION of countdown!
[19:19:29] <Induane> hows it played!
[19:19:31] <Induane> how did mos win?
[19:19:33] <Induane> :D
[19:19:35] <Induane> moss*
[19:19:52] <sueastside> by forming a 18letter word with random letters
[19:20:29] <sueastside> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_%28game_show%29
[19:22:29] <Tucos> \o
[19:25:53] <sueastside> oy Tucos
[19:38:43] <Tucos> icanhaz pics of your rain shader? :p
[19:39:21] <sueastside> no
[19:41:12] <Tucos> wai not?
[19:41:26] <sueastside> it aint done
[19:41:30] <Tucos> oh
[19:42:02] <azaghal> sueastside: So, is your shader cc-by-sa or GPLv2 or later?
[19:43:22] <sueastside> latter
[19:43:51] <azaghal> Code?
[19:43:51] <azaghal> Ok
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[19:44:21] <sueastside> azaghal: yeah i'm gonna put it in CS, and their stuff is
[19:56:45] * circeavalon pokes sueastside
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[20:16:05] <Arerano_Areramau> maybe you should make it closed, just to piss PS people off. :P
[20:16:32] <Arerano_Areramau> Oh damn! I said the forbidden word, didn't I?
[20:16:41] <Arerano_Areramau> or "open, except for X"
[20:17:19] <Tucos> then it'd be too late
[20:17:52] <Tucos> they already used it as-is, under the GPL ; so if you'd relicense it, they could still use the current version
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[21:02:51] <azaghal> Tucos: He was being sarcastic :)
[21:03:21] <Tucos> i know
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[21:18:55] <Tucos> let's see if i can get something from peragro running
[21:19:15] <Tucos> somehow a 17" laptop screen looks way more crowded than a 17" desktop screen
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[21:24:47] <Induane> hey Chieftain
[21:24:51] <Induane> howdy Tucos
[21:24:54] <Chieftain> hello
[21:25:06] <Induane> caedes: !!!!
[21:26:13] <azaghal> Running ftw
[21:27:12] <Induane> yay!
[21:29:24] <Tucos> hey Induane
[21:29:31] <Tucos> hallo Chieftain
[21:30:30] <Induane> :D
[21:32:41] <Tucos> ooh, looks like i haz nouveau supported card <3
[21:33:09] <circeavalon> Induane, hey the monitor went out on me upstairs..it made some stinky smell then died
[21:37:09] <Induane> hahahahahaha
[21:37:13] <Induane> HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHA
[21:37:15] <Induane> BUWAHAHAHAHAHAH!
[21:37:20] <Induane> ok
[21:37:41] <Tucos> solution: get a new one
[21:38:13] <circeavalon> it smelled like metal...thanks Tucos, why don't you pick one out for me?
[21:40:35] <sueastside> circeavalon: good news, Induane has two new 23inch screens for you! and even better they're fireproof, they already survived one fire.
[21:41:00] <circeavalon> he does?
[21:41:59] <Induane> long story
[21:42:05] <Induane> but yea there are some fireburned monitors here
[21:42:11] <Induane> so long as the putrid smell doesn't bother you
[21:42:15] <Induane> (might can be cleaned up)
[21:42:31] <Tucos> circeavalon: sure thing: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=379333& ; imma nice guy like that
[21:43:20] <circeavalon> that's a lot of euros, you gonna buy that for me Tucos?
[21:43:35] <Tucos> do i look like santa claus?
[21:43:51] <circeavalon> if I say yes will you be offended?
[21:44:05] <Tucos> no, but i'll burst your bubble anyway
[21:44:25] <sueastside> he's lanky, he's more like the grinch, he can steal you one for xmas
[21:45:27] <Tucos> xD
[21:45:57] <circeavalon> smell Induane? i put up with that burning metal smell, as long as they work and are awesome I don't care if an elephant shat them out
[21:48:04] <Induane> hahhahahhaha
[21:48:08] <Induane> delicious
[21:48:37] <Induane> wow Tucos pricey link!
[21:48:54] <Tucos> not that pricey imo
[21:48:54] <Induane> My 22 inch LCD was less than 100 dollars US
[21:48:59] <Induane> including shipping
[21:49:02] <Induane> its decent too
[21:49:05] <Induane> good blacks
[21:49:07] <Induane> no light leaks
[21:49:15] <Tucos> 27", 70000:1 contrast ration, 2ms response
[21:49:19] <Tucos> ratio*
[21:49:48] <Induane> In all honesty except in a side by side comparison I can't tell much difference if any that really affects my usage on a daily basis.
[21:50:22] <Induane> It works perfectly, I have zero complaints. And I could have bought 3 for less than that one cost and had a nice triple monitor setup
[21:50:25] <Tucos> depends on your usage ; size is neat, rest is nice for gaming and colour using stuffs
[21:50:51] <thebolt> i take one really good monitor over three half-shitty ones any day..
[21:50:51] <Tucos> my screens were 150 back then iirc, lame things suck big time
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[21:58:35] <Induane> Mostly 3d graphic design
[21:59:16] <Induane> thebolt: well thats the thing - I honestly can't tell much difference - the screen inside of it is made by lg, the contrast ratio is good though I can't recall it off the top of my head
[21:59:58] <thebolt> Induane: sure.. otoh when i got my new laptop and saw the new screen, couldn't believe i made do with my old for so long ;)
[22:00:04] <Induane> it was 150 originally, there was a memorial day sale which is why it was 100, but the blacks are better than the blacks I had on my 1200 dollar apple HD 23" LCD Screen and the 17" dell lcd screen I used to have.
[22:00:53] <Induane> Yea, I see pro quality screens of various types here though, a cheap monitor today tends to be better than a pricey one from 2002
[22:01:32] <azaghal> Induane: I have a Samsung 971P here
[22:02:03] <Induane> OK sueastside so now here is my conundrum: machine with: 8 GB DDR2 and a single 3GHz AMD X2 6000 vs a machine with 4GB DDR and two Dual Core Opteron Processors at 2.3 GHz each
[22:02:10] <Induane> It has 8 slots for ram though
[22:02:14] <Induane> both have pci-e slots
[22:02:46] <sueastside> Induane: the one with more cores
[22:02:57] <Induane> the dual opteron setup would have 4 cores
[22:02:59] <Tucos> i'd go with the 4gb one ; i have a pc with 4gb and one with 8gb, 8gb is a waste
[22:03:06] <Tucos> so more cores is better :)
[22:03:13] <azaghal> caedes: Ol!
[22:03:16] <azaghal> *Ole!
[22:03:24] <sueastside> the 6000 is 3ghz or something though....hmm
[22:03:28] <thebolt> i'd go for the dual opteron also.. can always get more ram later if needed
[22:03:30] <Induane> azaghal: yea we see tons of those same samsung monitors lately
[22:03:33] <Induane> 19"
[22:03:35] <Induane> I have rob using a pair
[22:03:44] <azaghal> 971P is nice.
[22:03:48] <Induane> they aren't as nice color wise as my cheapo lcd but they appear to be pretty reliable
[22:03:57] <Induane> they had a rough shipping and survived without losing their backlights
[22:04:04] <Induane> conversely all the dells had bad backlights
[22:05:31] <Induane> sueastside even made fun of my cheap screen and was like pull up some thing white with a black background and see how much the white bleeds... then he was like oh.. huh... it actually looks really good and then he quit talking. He NEVER does that.
[22:05:38] <Induane> I assumed that meant it was an LCD from God or something
[22:05:49] <Induane> or at least shipped accidentally though a wormhole into the future
[22:06:03] <Induane> (or past depending who you ask and what year it was when you dumped it in
[22:06:06] <Induane> )
[22:06:28] <Induane> Know what monitors suck huge huge monkey balls?
[22:06:33] <Induane> Most all of the sony LCD's we get
[22:06:36] <sueastside> Induane: no you didnt, and i never talk, so how can i quit talking?
[22:06:37] <Induane> They are SO expensive too
[22:06:46] <Induane> sueastside: you never quit railing on stuff you think sucks
[22:07:23] <sueastside> Induane: only anything made by apple...
[22:07:32] <Induane> haha
[22:07:35] <Induane> :D
[22:07:44] <sueastside> cant think of anything else though...
[22:08:17] <Tucos> i haz entire repo now
[22:08:25] <Tucos> anything fancy i should look at?
[22:11:33] <Induane> which repo?
[22:11:36] <Induane> we have 3
[22:11:40] <Induane> and which branch?
[22:11:48] <Induane> or is componenttest trunk now?
[22:12:18] <Tucos> https://cyanox.nl/peragro
[22:12:22] <sueastside> Tucos: weather, newgui(inventory), wincam
[22:12:25] <Tucos> the entire thing, so all branches stuff
[22:13:40] <Induane> sueastside nah you're like no thats a terrible way to do X y or z or no don't get THAT hardward take this totally obfuscatred but way cooler approach and buy this instead!
[22:13:51] <Induane> well art repo? (source art I mean)
[22:14:48] <Tucos> was that for me?
[22:17:05] <sueastside> Induane: so you have a problem with me voicing my argumented opinion?
[22:17:10] <Induane> no
[22:17:29] <Induane> I'm just saying that when you stop instantly and just quit talking its usually because you're surprised and concessional
[22:18:06] <azaghal> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/wd12-on-acta-its-the-final-countdown
[22:19:00] <Tucos> hrm. just install cel and cel-devel and weather's configure doesn't find it :<
[22:20:14] <sueastside> version?
[22:22:16] <Tucos> 1.2-8
[22:22:43] <sueastside> Tucos: DUDE thats way old, you need 1.9
[22:22:55] <Tucos> meh
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[22:23:43] <azaghal> Darker_Dreams: yo!
[22:23:54] <Tucos> lo Darker_Dreams
[22:23:55] <Darker_Dreams> 'allo azaghal!
[22:24:11] <sueastside> oy Darker_Dreams
[22:24:19] <Darker_Dreams> Greetings Tucos
[22:24:24] <Darker_Dreams> oi sueastside
[22:24:42] <Darker_Dreams> sueastside; you seen this; http://progressquest.com/
[22:24:51] <Tucos> sueastside: do i need to compile everything from source or is cel pretty much standalone?
[22:25:08] <Tucos> hm, nvm, can use the cs-devel of course
[22:25:34] <sueastside> Darker_Dreams: you seen http://sueastside.be/barkbane/ ?
[22:25:44] <Darker_Dreams> yes.
[22:25:56] <sueastside> Tucos: it depends on CS also 1.9
[22:26:45] <Tucos> hrm, even that is severely outdated :s
[22:36:13] <Tucos> sueastside: https://crystal.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/crystal/CS/branches/release/V1.4/ is 1.9?
[22:37:23] <sueastside> Tucos: that clearly says 1.4 :P
[22:37:27] <sueastside> Tucos: https://crystal.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/crystal/CS/trunk/
[22:37:44] <Tucos> but that was cause there was no 1.9 there :p
[22:44:20] <azaghal> Btw, sorry for no commits to network atm :/
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[23:05:56] <sueastside> hey recon69_lap
[23:05:57] <sueastside> night all
[23:05:57] <recon69_lap> o/
[23:07:34] <azaghal> sueastside: Night
[23:07:41] <azaghal> recon69_lap: Yo!
[23:07:44] <azaghal> Long time no see :)
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[23:09:55] <recon69_lap> Hi azaghal, true, been a while
[23:10:05] <azaghal> What's up?
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[23:12:38] <recon69_lap> Nothing much, waiting for network code :P
[23:12:52] <azaghal> Heh
[23:13:04] <azaghal> Well, there's progress :)
[23:13:11] <azaghal> I can actually pass messages around now.
[23:13:12] <recon69_lap> watching soccer
[23:13:18] <azaghal> Sheesh
[23:13:23] <azaghal> That's _football_
[23:14:40] <recon69_lap> only to people who have not lived in several country's
[23:14:58] <azaghal> Nah, just to people outside of USA :)
[23:15:21] <recon69_lap> what about Aus?
[23:16:28] <azaghal> Are they even people?
[23:16:32] <azaghal> :)
[23:16:51] <azaghal> Anyway, network's mostly there, just needs the final touch.
[23:17:30] <recon69_lap> good stuff :) look forward to seeing it
[23:17:43] <azaghal> It has nice docs (tm)
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[23:24:06] <azaghal> Night all ;)
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[23:49:41] <recon69_lap> g'night
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[23:50:45] <Tucos> now it's all quiet in here
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