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[01:11:10] <azaghal> Night
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[11:28:58] <azaghal> Yo
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[12:24:17] <Tucos> \o
[12:35:24] <azaghal> TalkToTheHand: Hello, hand
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[13:03:44] <azaghal> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers
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[13:36:07] <Deepa|AFK> When I linked to that one, no one cared :-/
[13:36:08] <Deepa|AFK> a
[13:36:17] <Deepa|AFK> nd you should consider looking up captain miffles on facebook
[13:37:03] <azaghal> Deepa|AFK: When did you link to it?
[13:37:16] <Deepa|AFK> Somewhen last year
[13:37:19] <azaghal> Ah
[13:37:21] <azaghal> :/
[13:37:33] <Deepa|AFK> Possibly at the start fo the year
[13:37:39] <Deepa|AFK> It
[13:37:45] <Deepa|AFK> s still brilliant though!
[13:40:14] <Deepa|AFK> Also
[13:40:17] <Deepa|AFK> http://www.minecraft.net
[13:42:13] <Deepa|AFK> azaghal, http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=952837&page=37
[13:42:14] <Deepa|AFK> look at the screenshots
[13:45:18] <Tucos> "I'm in infdev. I have all my diamonds on me, with all of my important things in my inventory, including 3 buckets of lava. I accidentally right click with a lava bucket, fill my house with lava, killing me, and destroying all pieces of diamond ever gathered. " wth xD
[13:46:25] <Deepa|AFK> Minecraft is awesome
[13:46:46] <Deepa|AFK> I'm eagerly awaiting the release
[13:48:54] <Tucos> hexidave was talking about it too
[13:48:54] <Tucos> seems boring :p
[13:49:16] <Deepa|AFK> Did you enjoy any GTA game?
[13:49:31] <Tucos> a little
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[13:50:04] <Deepa|AFK> The Sims?
[13:51:58] <Tucos> nope
[13:53:46] <Deepa|AFK> Well still, if you ever enjoyed any sandboxy game
[13:53:51] <Deepa|AFK> You'd love Minecraft
[13:54:05] <Deepa|AFK> I'm gonna go work on my lighthouse now though
[13:54:12] <Tucos> how's GTA a sandboxy gamE?
[13:54:40] <Deepa|AFK> How's GTA not a sandboxy game?
[13:55:32] <Tucos> oh, you meant sandbox as in free-roam
[13:55:45] <needle> needless to say
[13:55:49] <needle> good day
[13:55:55] <Tucos> that goes for a lot of games, and i doubt that liking those games has anything to do with liking every free-roam game
[13:56:01] <Tucos> hey needle
[13:58:02] <Deepa|AFK> free-roam, free-flying
[13:58:14] <Deepa|AFK> You're given a sandbox to play in
[13:58:19] <Deepa|AFK> lo needle
[13:59:38] <needle> heya Deepa|AFK & Tucos o/
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[14:54:21] <Deepa|AFK> I'm almost finished making an ocean now
[15:33:01] <Arerano_Areramau> minecraft appears to be like a virtual live-sized-lego world
[15:34:34] <Deepa|AFK> It's something like that yes
[15:34:36] <Deepa|AFK> But with action
[15:34:43] <Deepa|AFK> and crafting
[15:46:07] <azaghal> Deepa|AFK: How's the petition system going, btw? :)
[16:06:43] <Deepa|AFK> I can't find where I saved the project :P
[16:07:08] <Tucos> lol
[16:07:29] * Tucos hands Deepa|AFK a fail sticker
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[17:28:04] <azaghal> sueastside: Any idea what's up with DD?
[17:38:51] <Tucos> \o
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[18:24:57] <sueastside> azaghal: busy, there's the occasional post on facebook though... do you need him?
[18:25:07] <azaghal> No, just wondering.
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[18:25:32] <azaghal> Anything you'd like me to implement for the Client class interface?
[18:25:44] <sueastside> azaghal: http://sueastside.be/barkbane/
[18:26:04] <azaghal> Is that Jekkar?
[18:26:16] <sueastside> no, thats me
[18:26:36] <azaghal> You need to stop using external JS, and I'm really not joking on that one.
[18:27:22] <azaghal> I'd like to be able to open our sites and use them without allowing crapload of other sites to use JS.
[18:28:13] <sueastside> fine, done
[18:29:47] <azaghal> Fancy
[18:29:53] <azaghal> What's the cpu usage on those effects?
[18:30:40] <azaghal> Jumps up quite a bit
[18:31:27] <sueastside> firefox-bin 26%
[18:31:47] <azaghal> X went to almost 100%, btw.
[18:32:24] <Tucos> chrome on windows didn't even blink ;)
[18:33:48] <azaghal> sueastside: Btw, I'd rather go for something with less fancyness but usability.
[18:33:52] <azaghal> *but more
[18:34:17] <azaghal> Anyway
[18:34:50] <azaghal> sueastside: The Client class is meant to provide a kind of counterpart to the Server class. Just wondering what kind of interesting stuff you'd like it to do.
[18:35:56] <azaghal> Although, since it's basically a wrapper around a single connection...
[18:36:41] <sueastside> azaghal: well connect to a server, some signals for connect/disconnect/login/loggedin
[18:37:03] <azaghal> login stuff is actually a part of the component system.
[18:37:27] <sueastside> right
[18:37:36] <azaghal> Hm...
[18:37:42] <azaghal> I'll think-up of something.
[18:37:50] <azaghal> The very least it'll do connection establishing
[18:38:00] <azaghal> (hiding the Asio stuff from user of library)
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[18:58:40] <azaghal> :O
[18:58:42] <azaghal> Jekkar: Yo!
[18:58:46] <Jekkar> hey azaghal
[19:01:47] <azaghal> What's up?
[19:01:56] <Jekkar> ask sueastside
[19:02:07] <azaghal> Heheh
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[19:07:56] <azaghal> Jekkar: Seen the mail by any chance?
[19:08:22] <azaghal> Vornne: I have a problem with that macro thing :)
[19:08:28] <Jekkar> sent anything recent?
[19:09:04] <azaghal> Well, two days ago
[19:09:53] <azaghal> Vornne: Nevermind, my bad ;)
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[19:10:32] <Jekkar> gonna check then
[19:10:56] <azaghal> It's about some texture stuff.
[19:11:22] <Jekkar> azaghal whats your camera
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[19:12:52] <azaghal> Jekkar: Panasonic Lumix DMC TZ-7.
[19:13:01] <azaghal> It's not pro, but it's somewhat good.
[19:13:39] <sueastside> gtg
[19:13:44] <azaghal> sueastside: Huh?
[19:14:09] <Jekkar> he's running now that he has to help build a website with me
[19:14:13] <azaghal> Jekkar: You can see its results on my gallery.
[19:14:24] <Jekkar> url
[19:15:00] <azaghal> http://majic.rs/gallery/
[19:15:23] <azaghal> Some old photos from Greece/Serbia were taken with another one, but that's not in use anymore.
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[19:16:34] <Jekkar> well the problem is that I generate my texture and build them from the ground up, layer by layer
[19:16:55] <Jekkar> if you really wanna help you can just take every opportunity to take pictures of anything that looks like a texture
[19:17:02] <Jekkar> buildings, ground, materials etc
[19:17:14] <azaghal> Any tips etc?
[19:17:17] <Jekkar> build up a collection and when needed we can edit them
[19:17:20] <azaghal> I could post you two samples I tried the other night.
[19:17:22] <Jekkar> for taking pics of textures?
[19:17:25] <azaghal> Yes
[19:17:33] <Jekkar> get a reflex camera
[19:17:48] <azaghal> What's that?
[19:17:48] <Jekkar> show me some samples
[19:17:53] <azaghal> And no, I can't buy new camera :)
[19:18:05] <Jekkar> http://www.morrisgarage.com/clique/nikon_d200.jpg
[19:18:07] <Jekkar> I know
[19:18:12] <Jekkar> so show me some samples
[19:18:49] <azaghal> Just a sec
[19:20:58] <azaghal> https://engels.home.majic.rs/public/p1000721.jpg https://engels.home.majic.rs/public/p1000722.jpg https://engels.home.majic.rs/public/p1000723.jpg
[19:21:10] <azaghal> Last one is crap, tried to take a photo of some dish.
[19:21:19] <azaghal> First one was mostly a test :)
[19:21:32] <azaghal> Oh, and taken during night without flash, so it can be better quality.
[19:22:34] <azaghal> They're also a bit big.
[19:23:03] <azaghal> It could take a bit time for you to see them.
[19:23:06] <azaghal> (home connection)
[19:24:49] <Jekkar> that's not the quality I could make a texture out of
[19:25:15] <Jekkar> fiddle around with your camera settings, take them in lower resolutions and fix lighting and setting
[19:26:18] <azaghal> What's the main issue with them, btw?
[19:26:22] <azaghal> So I could know what to look for.
[19:26:34] <Jekkar> http://browse.deviantart.com/resources/textures/
[19:26:40] <Jekkar> they're bad quality
[19:26:56] <Jekkar> there's bad lighting
[19:27:21] <Jekkar> it would be incredibly hard making them tilable since there's smudges and unwanted things on them
[19:27:53] <azaghal> Ok, so you need something that's more continual?
[19:28:05] <azaghal> And quality as in pixelisation?
[19:28:51] <Jekkar> https://engels.home.majic.rs/public/p1000721.jpg well this pic for example
[19:29:03] <Jekkar> it looks decent zoomed out, zoomed in its terrible
[19:29:11] <Jekkar> either take a further stance or fiddle with your camera settings
[19:29:21] <Jekkar> exposure time, iso values, etc
[19:29:26] <azaghal> Further stance?
[19:29:38] <azaghal> So it could be better to capture even unwanted stuff, then just crop it?
[19:29:53] <Jekkar> no, to have a better quality picture
[19:30:25] <Jekkar> if I take a close up of a whale's face and I want the whole wale as a texture it would be handy if I had the rest, plus the resolution would be better suited for a texture
[19:30:46] <Jekkar> here you have 5 squares, if you had 20 that would be better suited for a texture plus it would look sharper
[19:31:45] <azaghal> Hm...
[19:32:03] <azaghal> I have some pixelisation with this camera unfortunately.
[19:32:14] <Jekkar> yup
[19:32:21] <azaghal> That whole "Looks good zoomed out, but bad zoomed in thing"
[19:32:33] <azaghal> So taking photo from further apart should make it more usable?
[19:33:01] <Jekkar> yup
[19:33:10] <Jekkar> while still maintaining the subject of course
[19:33:39] <azaghal> I'll see what I can do.
[19:33:45] <Jekkar> experiment
[19:34:07] <Jekkar> get to know your camera
[19:34:23] <Jekkar> every person with a higher than average camera thinks they can photograph amazing stuff the first time
[19:34:41] <azaghal> Well, whatever I did with it I had problems with that pixelisation thing.
[19:36:15] <Jekkar> yeah
[19:51:15] <DeepyDC> Also for those of you who didn't think Minecraft looked fun
[19:51:16] <DeepyDC> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzAofFVTTGQ&feature=player_embedded
[19:53:10] <azaghal> sgvlt?
[19:53:12] <azaghal> sgblt?
[19:53:13] <azaghal> persons?
[19:53:14] <azaghal> Wtf?
[19:54:34] <DeepyDC> sgblt? persons?
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[19:59:13] <azaghal> DeepyDC: Some kind of gay thing.
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[20:00:27] <DeepyDC> Sense, something you're not making at the moment
[20:02:44] <azaghal> DeepyDC: It's some kind of gay/whatever day, so on TV they used this weird acronym I didn't manage to get.
[20:03:45] <jennymccrackens> Hey azaghal
[20:03:54] <DeepyDC> Oh
[20:04:13] <azaghal> jennymccrackens: Yo
[20:04:18] <azaghal> Back after dinner ;)
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[20:14:24] <azaghal> Back
[20:21:55] <Jekkar> wobz
[20:22:05] <Jekkar> azaghal I'm making a logo for barkbane
[20:22:15] <Jekkar> in .AI so it will be printable on shirt
[20:22:15] <azaghal> Shouldn't that be for PT?
[20:22:19] <azaghal> Gah
[20:22:25] <azaghal> You still use those proprietary stuff :)
[20:22:28] <Jekkar> barkbane is peragro
[20:22:30] <azaghal> Vector at least?
[20:22:33] <azaghal> I know
[20:22:36] <Jekkar> .AI is always vector
[20:22:38] <azaghal> And PT logo?
[20:22:44] <Jekkar> barkbane first
[20:22:44] <azaghal> Adobe's format, though.
[20:22:48] <azaghal> Ok
[20:22:48] <Jekkar> were you at the meeting?
[20:22:51] <azaghal> Yes, I was.
[20:22:55] <Jekkar> yeah uh, gimp my ass, live with it
[20:23:01] <azaghal> For me Barkbane is but a village in PT world.
[20:23:11] <Jekkar> yeah
[20:23:13] <azaghal> Jekkar: There's Inkscape for vector stuff.
[20:23:16] <Jekkar> but it's also gonna be a main focus so
[20:23:28] <Jekkar> azaghal: blargen
[20:23:46] <Jekkar> dude I work with the adbove package at school, I've been doing so since I was little
[20:23:53] <Jekkar> I'm not an open source guy
[20:23:57] <Jekkar> adobe*
[20:26:13] <Jekkar> open source sucks my balls
[20:26:17] <Jekkar> I hate open source stuff
[20:26:20] <Jekkar> you all suck
[20:29:19] <azaghal> Funny because we're implementing a Free Software game...
[20:30:23] <Jekkar> open source muh balls
[20:30:29] <Jekkar> AZAGHAL!
[20:30:42] * azaghal starts cutting Jekkar's balls
[20:31:37] <Jekkar> *dies an excruciation open source death*
[20:33:08] <azaghal> Shit, can't code a thing this evening :/
[20:33:32] <Jekkar> because open source sucks
[20:47:17] <azaghal> Nah, just a bit down atm
[20:52:45] <Jekkar> okay!
[20:52:48] <Jekkar> no problem!
[20:54:53] <Jekkar> yes!
[20:55:06] <azaghal> That's about it for today.
[20:55:21] <Jekkar> : <
[20:56:30] <azaghal> Vornne: I need advice from you on holding a central register for Server instances when you come back. I.e. should I add that in the networking library or not (letting user fiddle with that)? It's more of an architectural question. And if I do add it, do I make singleton or use static data + functions accessing that static data.
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[21:12:34] <Jekkar> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8590/processw.jpg
[21:12:36] <Jekkar> main body
[21:13:11] <Jekkar> now that I have a vector it's photoshooping time!
[21:14:18] <azaghal> Poke me if you're done tonight :)
[21:16:22] <Jekkar> it'll take me at least a week to finish that logo
[21:16:38] <Jekkar> like it so far?
[21:33:42] <azaghal> Well, there's not much in there yet?
[21:33:51] <azaghal> Did you use some existing font, or...?
[21:34:34] <Jekkar> most is drawn
[21:34:59] <azaghal> What are those weird stripes?
[21:35:03] <Jekkar> roped
[21:35:11] <Jekkar> zoomed out so you cant see much of it
[21:35:19] <Jekkar> http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1720/processm.jpg
[21:35:24] <Jekkar> so now I keep building on this
[21:35:35] <azaghal> Ropes?
[21:35:51] <Jekkar> ropes, a material that can keep things together
[21:35:53] <Jekkar> as in letters
[21:35:55] <Jekkar> on a sign
[21:36:01] <azaghal> Hm... You might want to improve them a bit.
[21:36:18] <Jekkar> hmm, I might not show my progress here again
[21:36:20] <azaghal> maybe make them whirl around letter a bit so it's more obvious?
[21:36:23] <Jekkar> you cant even see them zoomed out
[21:36:41] <Jekkar> that's what I'm doing
[21:36:45] <Jekkar> dude, it's a vector
[21:36:50] <Jekkar> I havent even touched photoshop yet
[21:37:11] <Jekkar> you're like my art history teacher : P
[21:37:32] <azaghal> Gee, thanks.
[21:37:36] <Jekkar> you are uhuh
[21:37:37] <azaghal> I like being called an old geezer.
[21:37:42] <Jekkar> he is very old
[21:37:48] <Jekkar> he knows a lot about surrealism
[21:39:40] <azaghal> I like socrealism.
[21:39:44] <azaghal> I don't think we're alike.
[21:39:57] <Jekkar> I like Stalinism
[21:40:13] <azaghal> In Soviet Russian, Stalinism likes you!
[21:40:49] <Jekkar> indeed
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[21:57:42] <Jekkar> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9524/processt.jpg
[22:04:49] <Jekkar> bed time
[22:05:20] <Jekkar> bye christian scum
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[22:40:43] <azaghal> Night all
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