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[09:30:30] <sueastside> azaghal: what do you have against belgium?
[09:30:42] <sueastside> did you ever choke on a waffle?
[09:31:24] <sueastside> Vornne: well i meant it as example, it shows some inventories, perhaps gives an insight on how its done in the background?
[09:32:05] <sueastside> who is this konstnaren fellow?
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[11:33:17] <sueastside> hey |Arerano| arpu
[11:34:06] <|Arerano|> hello there
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[14:47:12] <sueastside> poo buxfixes arent satisfying in line count :/
[14:48:27] <|Arerano|> you even "undid" some work, refering to that. :/
[14:48:35] <|Arerano|> *referring, even.
[14:48:52] <Tucos> zomfg :o
[14:51:00] <|Arerano|> stop being contra-productive right now! >_<
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[15:11:23] <sueastside> |Arerano|: i blame Tucos
[15:11:38] <Tucos> nice timing, just started my client again xD
[15:11:44] <Tucos> but yeah, sorry for that
[15:13:30] <sueastside> Tucos: are you good at css?
[15:14:25] <Tucos> sort of
[15:14:33] <Tucos> been quite a while since i last used it :p
[15:17:27] <sueastside> arg i cant show you the problem at the moment, buts its my tree on the asset site that overflows and not give a scrollbar
[15:19:10] <Tucos> just play a bit with the overflow, width and position attribs, it should be overflow: scroll; by default, so i guess it doesnt' like to scroll when it doesn't have it's width set or somethign like that
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[15:28:14] <sueastside> ok
[15:32:36] <DoctorXanadu> good day sueastside
[15:32:42] <sueastside> hey XilliX
[16:02:53] <needle> hey xillix
[16:03:35] <needle> ot question, does any1 know if there is a test app for testing ogre? similar to walktest ?
[16:08:41] <sueastside> ogretest?
[16:09:44] <sueastside> needle: i think you're stuck with the demos
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[16:21:10] <DoctorXanadu> hey needle
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[16:30:22] <Tucos> the ogre demos work like a charm to test ogre :)
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[16:40:51] <|Arerano|> hello XilliX
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[16:48:40] <DoctorXanadu> |Arerano| good to see you still around
[16:50:05] <|Arerano|> I'm also glad to see you around.
[16:55:53] <DoctorXanadu> Thanks
[16:57:26] <DoctorXanadu> closing up here see you all
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[18:46:40] <Arerano_Areramau> Oh oh!
[18:47:05] <sueastside> Arerano_Areramau: what are you a teletubby?
[18:48:18] <Arerano_Areramau> Not unless I'm on drugs.
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[19:17:36] * Tucos is bored
[19:26:40] * Tucos prods sueastside
[19:37:01] <needle> Tucos is great weather outside...
[19:37:18] <needle> go drink a beer and watch soccer :)
[19:37:18] <Tucos> over here great is an overstatement
[19:37:37] <Tucos> i was thinking about beer, cba to watch football over here
[19:38:51] <azaghal> Yo
[19:38:57] <Tucos> Oy
[19:39:09] <azaghal> needle: Shorts!!!! Short shorts!!! And skirts!
[19:39:11] <azaghal> Yay
[19:39:25] <azaghal> pt->SexualHarrassment++;
[19:40:14] <needle> azaghal yeah, i already thought about writing it too...
[19:40:24] <needle> but i knew i could count on you :)
[19:41:20] <needle> and yeah yo azaghal
[19:41:21] <azaghal> :)
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[19:59:18] <azaghal> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/new-sticker-results
[20:00:39] <konstnaren> nice
[20:03:21] * Tucos pokes azaghal, because of a lack of sueastside and amogorkon :p
[20:10:25] * Tucos should start his own project instead XD
[20:12:13] <konstnaren> Instead of what?
[20:12:26] <amogorkon> meep
[20:12:34] <amogorkon> i'm not substitutable!
[20:20:37] <Tucos> konstnaren: instead of helping others :p
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[20:26:04] <sueastside> konstnaren: what did you specifically like about the snow?
[20:26:37] <sueastside> Tucos: hows the python going?
[20:26:39] <konstnaren> how it applied to normals
[20:26:51] <Tucos> sueastside: good, it's pretty easy :p
[20:27:42] <konstnaren> the appearance of death
[20:27:46] <konstnaren> depth*
[20:28:04] <sueastside> konstnaren: if you're intrested in ugly code https://cyanox.nl/peragro/branches/weather/
[20:28:34] <sueastside> most of the magic is in https://cyanox.nl/peragro/branches/weather/data/shaders/surface-snow.xml
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[20:29:14] <konstnaren> does crystalspace have it's own shader language?
[20:29:19] <konstnaren> or can you use glsl?
[20:30:43] <sueastside> you can use Cg directly, but it allows for snippets which allows for weaving shaders, basicly connecting inputs/outputs to quickly write certain effects with minimum code repetition
[20:30:57] <konstnaren> nice
[20:32:01] <azaghal> CG is non-free...
[20:32:04] <sueastside> example of snow applied to a big scene http://sueastside.be/screenshots/snow1.JPG
[20:32:09] * azaghal stills thinks we should find something else instead of CG
[20:32:46] <konstnaren> IMHO, all the snow scenes need
[20:32:49] <konstnaren> is window frost
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[20:35:36] <sueastside> konstnaren: wouldnt be as easy as this snow shader art wise, you'll need to give windows its own mesh/material, but shader wise very easy to blend in some frost based on temperature or whatever
[20:36:41] <konstnaren> interesting
[20:39:13] <azaghal> konstnaren: Care to find something which can replace CG? :)
[20:39:32] <konstnaren> GLSL?
[20:44:43] <konstnaren> Sorry if i haven't rtfm on this... but is there an easy way to drop static models into fearann?
[20:44:43] <azaghal> konstnaren: Take a pick, and persuade sueastside to drop CG :)
[20:44:53] <konstnaren> there's only 3 languages
[20:45:10] <konstnaren> glsl, hlsl, cg
[20:45:22] <azaghal> Anything else portable as cg?
[20:45:31] <Tucos> i think i've read about a foss cg thing a looong time ago, but prolly was shit
[20:45:34] <konstnaren> glsl
[20:45:39] <azaghal> Tucos: -.-
[20:45:54] <konstnaren> GLSL works on everything opengl works on... going back pretty far
[20:46:01] <azaghal> Yo mama's so fat they thought she was a Window$ 7 deployment!
[20:46:20] <azaghal> I know sueastside bitched about something related to anything else besides CG.
[20:46:22] * azaghal pokes sueastside
[20:46:22] * azaghal pokes sueastside
[20:46:23] * azaghal pokes sueastside
[20:46:25] * azaghal pokes sueastside
[20:48:55] <konstnaren> Cg can be used for both directx and opengl
[20:49:18] <konstnaren> while glsl is locked into opengl.... but seeing as how opengl is crossplatform
[20:53:16] <Arerano_Areramau> In Soviet Russia, games play YOU!
[20:53:37] <konstnaren> in columbia, cocaine grows you
[20:53:54] <azaghal> In Jamaica, weed blows you!
[20:54:29] <konstnaren> in east indies, opium harvests you
[20:54:34] <sueastside> konstnaren: fearann? i think you have the wrong game...
[20:54:41] <Arerano_Areramau> Roses are red; Violets are blue; In Soviet Russia; Poem writes you!
[20:54:51] <konstnaren> who what?
[20:55:01] <azaghal> sueastside: Want to respond, or I should put on the gloves?
[20:55:02] <konstnaren> how do i have the wrong game?
[20:55:27] <azaghal> konstnaren: You see, we pride ourself on our comradeship :)
[20:55:54] <sueastside> azaghal: Cg has a compiler, glsl is compiled in the driver, harder to determine optimal code or handoptimise code, Cg can also compile to lower profiles
[20:56:19] <azaghal> konstnaren: Contra-arguments, please :)
[20:56:19] <sueastside> konstnaren: 'fearann' is another game...
[20:56:33] <azaghal> sueastside: Hush, we don't want people leaving :0
[20:56:34] <konstnaren> i know what fearann is... but what's it gotta do with anything?
[20:56:55] <azaghal> <konstnaren> Sorry if i haven't rtfm on this... but is there an easy way to drop static models into fearann?
[20:57:03] <konstnaren> ahh balls
[20:57:07] <konstnaren> i did say that
[20:57:08] <sueastside> :D
[20:57:09] <Arerano_Areramau> xD
[20:57:10] <azaghal> Penis!
[20:57:14] <azaghal> Oh
[20:57:19] <azaghal> We're not playing associations...
[20:57:20] <konstnaren> i meant peragro
[20:57:32] <sueastside> azaghal: network code, or do i have to put on the gloves?
[20:57:33] <konstnaren> i've messed around with my models in fearann before
[20:57:36] <konstnaren> was messy
[20:57:42] <azaghal> sueastside: Are your hands warm?
[20:57:44] <azaghal> :P
[20:58:07] <azaghal> sueastside: Downgrading my X.org so I can type normally.
[20:58:16] <sueastside> konstnaren: well it will be easy soon, i'll explain in 10minutes
[20:58:24] <konstnaren> <3
[20:58:51] <azaghal> sueastside: You know, I'm not sure CG's license is compliant with us :)
[21:00:27] <konstnaren> i know there's a license for the toolkit
[21:00:28] <azaghal> http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2007/05/mesa-and-llvm.html
[21:00:49] <konstnaren> but i can't find any license on the coded shaders
[21:01:04] <konstnaren> seeing as how they're your code... wouldn't expect any
[21:07:53] <sueastside> konstnaren: this is assetserver http://sueastside.shacknet.nu:8080/ it scans our art repo (currently just a test repo) analyzes any files and lists usable assets, transcoder plugins then allow to transcode the asset into a game engine usable format, meet assetclient(Anvil), this connects to the assetserver and allows to instance these assets into the world http://sueastside.be/screenshots/assetclient/assetclient5.JPG
[21:08:37] <sueastside> konstnaren: a 3d preview of assets is available in the webgui, for example expand house15.blend and click house015
[21:11:38] <sueastside> so basicly commit blend file to svn, place with anvil, done.
[21:19:08] <sueastside> azaghal: if pt is done, i'll prolly get bored and write a CS glsl plugin
[21:19:16] <azaghal> Heh
[21:19:32] <azaghal> sueastside: I'm on vacation now, btw.
[21:19:39] <azaghal> I'll have at least _some_ extra time.
[21:20:26] <sueastside> azaghal: wiii
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[21:23:27] <konstnaren> sueastside, that's brilliant
[21:24:37] * circeavalon pokes sueastside
[21:25:00] <circeavalon> konstnaren, don't tell him that, he's already got a big head
[21:26:22] <konstnaren> nothing wrong with a big head aslong as there's good ideas in there
[21:27:05] <circeavalon> yeah as long as you don't shove your good ideas in other peoples faces
[21:27:39] <konstnaren> nice talking, off to model
[21:53:57] <sueastside> konstnaren: screen? or do you mean nude modeling?
[22:00:07] <konstnaren> just starting a new project atm
[22:00:23] <konstnaren> doing a scene of this cobble stone village on top of mountains in columbia
[22:03:35] <sueastside> konstnaren: well screens of old projects are also welcome..
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[22:07:28] <konstnaren> unfortunately, sharemation.com is no longer functioning :( so i lost my portfolio
[22:09:19] <konstnaren> http://imagebin.org/101458 http://imagebin.org/101459
[22:09:22] <konstnaren> current project
[22:09:30] <konstnaren> will give u pics tomorrow or something
[22:13:23] <sueastside> thats pretty cool
[22:13:26] <sueastside> good night
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[22:36:38] <azaghal> sueastside: Night
[22:36:52] <needle> sue sleep well
[22:39:00] <azaghal> 3D technology...
[22:39:01] <azaghal> Hah!
[22:39:08] <azaghal> Fucking newspeople morons.
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[23:35:54] <Easton|writez> you watching rick sanchez?
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