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[09:00:54] * sueastside pokes circeavalon
[09:01:13] <circeavalon> hey love
[09:04:24] <sueastside> circeavalon: what up?
[09:05:48] <circeavalon> i got asked how much I charge for wedding hair from someone I went to high school with
[09:07:01] <sueastside> so people knew you in high school, guess you werent invisible like me...
[09:10:01] <sueastside> well i guess i wasnt really invisible, cause everyone managed to avoid me
[09:10:15] <circeavalon> no, but I was part of the crowd that stood out, the non-conformists
[09:10:42] <sueastside> ah rebels without a clue
[09:10:50] <circeavalon> the people who were clique-less
[09:12:49] <circeavalon> the geeks, nerds, punks and goth kids had to band together...I had 150 people in my graduating class and most of us went to pre-k together. It was slim pickings for friends. You made them when and where you could
[09:13:33] <circeavalon> nothing worse then the jocks and preps picking on one of mine to get me all pissed off
[09:14:24] <circeavalon> they were scared of me
[09:15:13] <sueastside> you are scary
[09:15:23] <circeavalon> i was the witch
[09:15:33] <circeavalon> they were scared as hellof me
[09:16:04] <sueastside> pff witches, we had satanists
[09:16:24] <circeavalon> I scared the satanists
[09:16:26] <sueastside> not that meant much in a public school
[09:17:32] <circeavalon> I was a well known witch and had been for many years
[09:17:43] <circeavalon> established
[09:18:06] <sueastside> you sure cast a spell on me
[09:18:37] <circeavalon> if you would like to think that you may
[09:19:54] <circeavalon> the most you have ever seen me do is read tarot
[09:21:15] <sueastside> and the Kiss of Death
[09:21:52] <circeavalon> yeah but it was only once...it doesn't count
[09:24:24] <sueastside> <Count dracula>One, you just counted to one</Count dracula> sounds like it counts...
[09:25:18] <circeavalon> honey I have hair to do tomorrow and my art class and hair friday late afternoon, I need to get to bed
[09:25:46] <circeavalon> and I have to get tires on my car and I had a real rough day
[09:25:49] <sueastside> ok, i love you, good night
[09:26:14] <circeavalon> ok I love you mostest, night love
[09:26:14] <sueastside> well i dont know about that rough day, you didnt tell me about it
[09:26:27] <circeavalon> my grandfather
[09:27:19] <circeavalon> he made me feel like the ugliest peice of shit after he bought me four new tires for my car, and in the parking lot of the tire shop no less
[09:28:23] <circeavalon> cause you do something nice he thinks it means you can say something mean
[09:28:47] <circeavalon> I cried all the way home
[09:29:15] <circeavalon> then I got to lissa's and yelled in the direction of his house
[09:30:29] <sueastside> sounds productive
[09:30:45] <circeavalon> no, just made me feel better
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[09:31:42] <circeavalon> i told him thats why I don't go over there, he said it wasn't and I said yeah I'd been hearing that shit fromhim my entire life
[09:32:28] <circeavalon> how no one will want me, cause I'm so hideous and I will be alone like my aunt
[09:32:49] <circeavalon> fuck him, makes me angry just remembering it
[09:35:26] <circeavalon> i remember that shit since I was seven
[09:39:14] <circeavalon> all I could think of was how wrong he was and the people that love me, and who does he think he is that he thinks he can make me feel unwanted, I am damn sexy and I have someone who loves me and he can kiss my ass.
[09:41:15] <circeavalon> All I hear is everyone saying how good I look and he has to be the cantankerous old man who has to bring me down
[09:41:28] * circeavalon pokes sueastside
[09:41:49] <circeavalon> nvm..your busy and I need to go to sleep. I love you
[09:42:26] <sueastside> circeavalon: well some good came of this, i learned a new word.
[09:42:33] <sueastside> circeavalon: night love
[09:42:42] <circeavalon> ? what word?
[09:42:50] <sueastside> circeavalon: get your sexy ass in bed and go to sleep
[09:42:54] <sueastside> cantankerous
[09:43:06] <circeavalon> do you know what it means?
[09:43:15] <sueastside> yes
[09:43:32] <sueastside> (cause i looked it up)
[09:43:33] <circeavalon> good, night love
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[10:17:35] <sueastside> hey brankom tereay
[10:21:44] <brankom> sueastside: Yo
[10:25:54] <tereay> heya o/
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[11:59:39] <sueastside> hey Arerano_Areramau TheAncientGoat needle
[11:59:55] <TheAncientGoat> ey sueastside
[12:05:44] <Arerano_Areramau> hello
[12:05:50] <Arerano_Areramau> hehehe, awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFoOsV-cRso
[12:19:47] <sueastside> nice door swing
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[16:46:56] <Induane> ryzom engine was released gpl
[16:47:00] <Induane> client and server
[17:04:00] <Induane> well you really need a dedicated server to do an mmo
[17:04:06] <Induane> just isn't any other really good way of doing it
[17:04:10] <Induane> thats why all mmo's use one
[17:04:13] <Induane> and thats not a big deal
[17:04:20] <Induane> the ones that seem not to actually do too
[17:04:24] <Induane> one person hosts
[17:04:30] <Induane> thats actually just running a local dedicated server
[17:04:54] <Tucos> are you talking to yourself or am i crazy? o.O
[17:07:19] <tereay> same here O.Ö
[17:07:52] <Induane> wrong window
[17:08:08] <tereay> phew /o\
[17:08:16] <Induane> bUWahahahahahahahhaahah
[17:08:28] <Induane> JUST KIDDING! You're ALL crazy!!!!
[17:08:56] <Induane> And flying Muffins named Fredricklebergh are using their laser raisins to evaporate your braincells all gone!
[17:09:26] <Tucos> :O
[17:09:33] * Tucos grabs his tinfoil hat
[17:09:47] <tereay> Ö.Ö
[17:10:28] <Induane> And they just called in ground support from captain pickle who used to be cool as a cucumber until the accident with the vinager and spices scarred him for life. Now he's a real hothead and also happens to be an insane genius much like Tesla and he has figured out a way to concentrate an emp burst like a laser to give it insane range and make people blow up like a hamster in the microwave!!!!!
[17:11:21] <tereay> than.....get the Eyes of Evil !
[17:11:38] <tereay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_loKsEB8Q&feature=related
[17:11:57] <Induane> rats I"m at work. no watching youtube videos lest I lose the aforementioned job
[17:12:06] <tereay> :P
[17:13:55] <thebolt> Induane: not your own boss, eh? :)
[17:14:12] <Induane> Not quite :)
[17:14:24] <Tucos> thebolt: are you?
[17:15:35] <thebolt> Tucos: yes, mostly
[17:15:52] <Tucos> freelance or what?
[17:16:03] <thebolt> no, but starting my own company together with some friends
[17:16:16] <Tucos> aight
[17:16:23] <Tucos> what kind of company?
[17:16:27] <thebolt> (officially having the title of CTO.. aka doer ;)
[17:16:47] <thebolt> we're developing an UAS
[17:17:01] <Induane> UAS?
[17:17:06] <thebolt> unmanned aerial system
[17:17:15] <Induane> Rats, beyond me :)
[17:17:19] <thebolt> self-flying vehicle together with surrounding support systems
[17:20:36] <Induane> how are you planning on doing it? will it be remote - satellite controlled? Or will you need hotspots?
[17:21:05] <Induane> model plane using wireless :) skims or cracks wifi networks as it goes across town to maintain contact?
[17:21:08] <Induane> ahahha
[17:21:10] <Induane> sorry
[17:21:26] <Tucos> what will the UASes do? just fly around? spy? bomberplanes? :p
[17:21:36] <Tucos> gotta cook dinner, bbl o/
[17:22:55] <thebolt> Induane: it is within radio-range flying (in fact, due to legal stuff within visual range).. but it has all electronics onboard to fly without the radio too ;) and the idea is to carry a big camera (for photography and filming)
[17:23:10] <Induane> would be sweet
[17:23:25] <Induane> my friend has a model plane we duct tape a small camcorder to for filming short movies
[17:23:30] <Induane> he flies it over our scenes
[17:23:48] <Induane> but if its not a really calm day we get issues with camera steadyness
[17:25:02] <Induane> and I don't know how to fix that - maybe a gyroscope but I wouldn't know how to do it
[17:28:26] <thebolt> well, our UAV is a rotary wing aircraft (aka a kind of helicopter).. with electronic stabilization
[17:44:44] <Induane> thats neato
[17:44:50] <Induane> and probably much better for that sort of thing
[17:44:54] <Induane> well not probably
[17:44:58] <Induane> definately
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[17:59:02] <Arerano_Areramau> http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/
[17:59:03] <Arerano_Areramau> :P
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[18:35:05] <azaghal> Yo
[18:48:54] <Tucos> oY
[18:49:40] <azaghal> Heheh
[19:09:40] <Induane> heya
[19:09:49] <Induane> How are you
[19:09:51] <Induane> ?
[19:11:30] <sueastside> yo azaghal Tucos
[19:11:48] <azaghal> Induane: Yo
[19:11:49] <azaghal> sueastside: Yo
[19:12:06] <azaghal> I'm meh
[19:12:54] <sueastside> azaghal: how are you?
[19:13:13] <azaghal> Meh
[19:13:15] <azaghal> As I said.
[19:13:53] <sueastside> azaghal: i asked so you had a reason to say it, now you said it twice and it no longer makes sense!
[19:13:55] <Induane> well I never paid
[19:14:01] <azaghal> Never paid what?
[19:14:08] <azaghal> Induane: Btw, did you take care of ISP?
[19:14:09] <sueastside> the hooker
[19:14:10] <Induane> The pledges didn't need to be fullfilled until the company agreed to the purchase
[19:14:13] <Induane> oops
[19:14:16] <Induane> wrong window
[19:14:19] <azaghal> :O
[19:14:22] <azaghal> No, more, more :)
[19:14:23] <sueastside> AGAIN
[19:14:32] <azaghal> sueastside: Maybe next time he'll post his CC info.
[19:15:06] <Induane> afaik yes
[19:15:13] <Induane> but not my cc num
[19:15:14] <sueastside> azaghal: then they would come after us to pay his bills...
[19:15:19] <azaghal> Heh
[19:16:44] <azaghal> Relaxation time
[19:17:07] <sueastside> azaghal: going for some nice relaxing network coding?
[19:17:21] <Induane> sueastside: I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do a decent breakdown in my monitor lists - I want a thingy that looks like
[19:17:25] <Induane> 17"
[19:17:27] <Induane> A B C D F Total
[19:17:29] <Induane> Dell 3 5 5 3 1 17
[19:17:31] <Induane> NEC 1 4 5 3 0 13
[19:17:35] <Induane> MonitorUnits have a many to many relationship to their pallet. Size is contained in pallet table, grade and brand in unit table
[19:17:36] <azaghal> Nope, going to lay in bed and watch Spongebob
[19:17:58] <azaghal> Induane: Read about database normalisation a bit.
[19:18:53] <Tucos> more than a bit :p
[19:19:05] <Induane> azaghal: I can get all the data easily
[19:19:17] <Induane> what I'm trying to do is get it in a way django can output it effeciently
[19:19:30] <Induane> so I don't hardcode dictionaries for each brand
[19:19:33] <Induane> etc
[19:19:49] <sueastside> Induane: i'm not helping untill you go "sueastside !!!!!!"
[19:19:58] <Induane> I could just do a dictionary for dells, and populate it with Grade A: 122
[19:20:02] <Induane> SUEASTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3
[19:20:26] <Induane> so I was tring to put dictionaries into lists
[19:20:37] <Induane> I don't even know if I can
[19:20:44] <sueastside> Induane: uhm didnt we already do something like this?
[19:21:01] <Induane> sueastside no, well I did in a crappy python script that output a hardcoded webpage
[19:21:04] <Induane> and you were like ZOMG NO!
[19:21:07] <Induane> do it in a template
[19:21:12] <Induane> so I redid a bunch of stuff
[19:21:15] <Induane> and now I'm back to there
[19:22:22] <Induane> I had to make forms for everything and all kinds of other stuff
[19:22:25] <Induane> editing
[19:22:29] <Induane> made a base site file finally
[19:22:33] <Induane> hah
[19:22:46] <Induane> my menu system still sucks but thats for the birds
[19:24:30] <sueastside> Induane: give me a minute
[19:24:35] <Induane> no hurry
[19:24:43] <Induane> its all I'm doing all day today pretty much :
[19:24:45] <Induane> ;)
[19:25:02] <sueastside> Induane: 17inch is size and thats in the pallet?
[19:26:00] <Induane> right
[19:26:18] <sueastside> Induane: you should really hire me...
[19:26:39] <Induane> http://dpaste.com/202802/
[19:26:41] <Induane> I know
[19:26:43] <Induane> I wish I could :/
[19:27:08] <Induane> Like I'm pretty sure I can figure all of this out after i rip out all my hair, dance, down 10 monsters, and nearly die... but thats inefficient
[19:27:16] <Induane> thats my model ^
[19:27:20] <Induane> though its dumb
[19:27:44] <Induane> kory wants us to separate sizes by pallet, but also wants mixed pallets for grade F and D stuff, and I KNOW he's going to ask for their sizes later
[19:27:48] <Induane> but I didn't want to put a size field in BOTH
[19:27:53] <Induane> because thats friggin stupid
[19:29:08] <sueastside> Induane: condition is grade?
[19:29:19] <Induane> tea
[19:29:23] <Induane> yea * sorry
[19:29:51] <Induane> long time ago he wanted it specific - cracked but working, leaks acid, explodes, scratched screen, missing base, steals your soul,
[19:29:55] <Induane> stuff like that
[19:32:42] <sueastside> Induane: i would add size to both, call it prefered_size in the pallet, that way if he asks for mixed sizes all you have to do is add a confirmation message on your form validation "this monitor isnt the prefered size for this pallet (17 != 19), are you sure you want to add it?"
[19:34:06] <Induane> Can I make the default value of a the size field automatically the value of the preferred size in the model somehow?
[19:34:21] <Induane> hmmm no I don't suppose I could
[19:34:44] <Induane> would have to do that in the form I guess?
[19:35:18] <sueastside> Induane: eh? you mean any monitor you add to the pallet automatically gets that prefered size?
[19:35:37] <Induane> yea or the field gets set to that
[19:35:40] <Induane> but is still changable
[19:35:57] <Induane> kind of like in the model you can set default="LCD" or whatever
[19:42:03] <Induane> ok done
[19:42:11] <Induane> well except for the default thing
[19:42:14] <Induane> thats a usability thing
[19:42:20] <Induane> I'll work that out later
[19:42:28] <Induane> for now its a minor nuisance
[19:42:46] <Induane> and I have korys son I can put to work doing tedious things like editing previously entered montors
[19:42:50] <Induane> hahahahahahhahaah
[19:46:00] <sueastside> Induane: http://codepad.org/QlrouLMs
[19:46:00] <Induane> But ok so now I have it in two places :)
[19:47:22] <Induane> reading through it
[19:50:03] <Induane> whats this do? grades = {}
[19:50:06] <sueastside> Induane: grades is a 3 dimensional dict/array thing, it will look like {'A':{'Dell':[mon1, mon2], 'HP':[mon3, mon4]}, 'B':{'DELL':[mon5], ...}, ..}
[19:50:07] <Induane> put grades in a dictionary somehow?
[19:50:21] <Induane> oh
[19:50:22] <sueastside> Induane: makes grades into an empty dict
[19:50:31] <Induane> nevermind I feel dum
[19:50:34] <Induane> just a declaration
[19:50:37] <Induane> sec
[19:50:40] <Induane> getting more of a feel for all this
[19:50:53] <sueastside> Induane: python: {} == empty dict, [] == empty array, () == empty set
[19:53:48] <Induane> [] osm
[19:53:52] <Induane> err
[19:53:54] <Induane> [] isn't list?
[19:53:57] <Induane> or is list and array the same thing?
[19:54:05] <Induane> I get AttributeError: 'MonitorPallet' object has no attribute 'MonitorUnit_set'
[19:54:11] <Induane> whats the set thing?
[19:54:36] <Induane> http://codepad.org/FF1ioRiQ was my new version
[19:55:04] <Induane> I think I was trying too hard to rely on the queryset api
[19:55:08] <sueastside> Induane: its the reverse of you foreignkey, use small letters like i wrote it
[19:55:33] <Induane> I did use it in lowercase..
[19:56:33] <sueastside> Induane: pallet.MonitorUnit_set.all():
[19:56:39] <sueastside> Induane: is not lowercase
[19:56:53] <sueastside> Induane: and you left out parts of my code...
[19:57:24] <Induane> oh so I have to use monitorunit lowercase too even though thats not how you reference it otherwise?
[19:57:26] <Induane> weird
[19:57:30] <Induane> and what did I leave out?
[19:57:48] <sueastside> Induane: my line 9 and you missindented my line 10
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[20:02:07] <Induane> ok got it
[20:02:17] <Induane> still don't quite get why the _set thing needs all lowercase and nothing else does
[20:02:21] <Induane> why is that?
[20:04:38] <Induane> this is way less code than I had
[20:04:39] <sueastside> Induane: cause unlike MonitorPallet.objects.all() where youre referencing the class, pallet.monitorunit_set , monitorunit_set is a member of the *instance* pallet, and members are ussually written lowercase in python
[20:04:58] <Induane> so this is because of the object oriented nature of all of this?
[20:07:12] <sueastside> Induane: you're asking the wrong question, i can only think of a vague 'yes, no, not really' answer...
[20:08:14] <Induane> I mean when I think of instancing I think of making an instance of an object then using that code
[20:08:21] <Induane> but I didn't see us make an instance of it anywhere
[20:08:34] <Induane> oh wait
[20:08:36] <Induane> I see
[20:08:44] <Induane> pallet is what we made
[20:08:47] <Induane> nevermind
[20:09:55] <sueastside> Induane: no, pallet was returned by MonitorPallet.objects.all() , well its one of the objects in the array returned
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[20:13:31] <sueastside> Induane: you have a 'type', MonitorPallet, then you say: 'give me all instances of that type', .objects.all(), you pick one of these instances, stick it in a variable 'pallet', and then you ask: 'which monitors are on *that* pallet' and that information is in a member called 'monitorunit_set' (the reverse link of your 'id_number = models.ForeignKey(MonitorPallet)')
[20:13:43] <Induane> neato
[20:13:55] * circeavalon pokes sueastside
[20:14:09] <Induane> I had over like 100 lines
[20:14:50] <circeavalon> Induane, didn't you say there was some sort of bag for my laptop?
[20:15:18] <sueastside> Induane: dont say neato, read it again, understand it, its the verbal verbose meaning of first 5 lines of code
[20:15:49] * circeavalon pokes sueastside again
[20:16:14] <sueastside> circeavalon: i saw you! i already have my laptop open, waiting for it to connect
[20:18:55] <Induane> I know
[20:18:57] <Induane> I copied and pasted it already
[20:19:01] <Induane> have to go to deal express
[20:20:02] <Induane> bbiab
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[21:49:16] <Deepa> I got my new phone now atleast
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[21:53:17] <azaghal> Hm...
[21:53:38] <Deepa> And thankfully it can multitask so I can IRC even if I accidently hit the wrong button
[21:54:00] <azaghal> They just offered me to fill up some questionary on DynDNS and win Apple iPad Tablet. Now that's what I call a major fail :)
[21:54:04] <Deepyphone> though this client is hideous
[21:54:24] <Deepyphone> XD
[21:54:31] <thebolt> Deepyphone: what phone?
[21:54:41] <Deepyphone> N1
[21:54:44] <sueastside> thebolt: a sony ericson X10
[21:54:51] <azaghal> X10?
[21:54:54] <azaghal> Does it come with porn?
[21:55:40] <Deepyphone> According to Mr. Jobs, android is THE mobile if you want porn
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[21:56:40] <sueastside> omg PK|London !!!!
[21:56:53] <Deepyphone> But I like my Nexus One already
[21:57:18] * Tucos curses at windows
[21:57:25] <Deepyphone> keyboard needs improvement and spellcheck in this client though
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[21:58:26] <sueastside> Tucos: too bad m$' voice recognition sucks
[21:58:35] <Tucos> :p
[21:58:50] <Tucos> i can ping fine, domains resolve, but apps won't work xD
[21:59:00] <Deepyphone> proxt?
[21:59:05] <Deepyphone> proxy?
[21:59:15] <PK|London> hi all
[21:59:19] <azaghal> Tucos: Does IE work?
[21:59:23] <azaghal> PK|London: Yo
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[21:59:30] <Tucos> azaghal: i don't even want to try :p
[21:59:44] <Tucos> OMG
[21:59:51] <Tucos> oh, it had an offline page xD
[22:02:02] <azaghal> Heh
[22:04:00] <PK|London> if any of you are in London this or next week. I invite for a beer.
[22:04:44] <Tucos> if any of you are in holland , you can buy your own beer :p
[22:04:46] <azaghal> Got a buddy from UK from PS.
[22:05:37] <PK|London> i think xordan is for uk, right?
[22:06:05] <sueastside> PK|London: and recon
[22:06:38] <PK|London> right
[22:11:57] <azaghal> What are you doing over there?
[22:12:19] <PK|London> holidays
[22:14:19] <sueastside> PK|London: did i show you the worldeditor?
[22:14:54] <azaghal> 28 days later is a great film...
[22:15:00] <azaghal> Holidays?
[22:15:10] <sueastside> azaghal: so is 28 weeks later
[22:15:19] <azaghal> FFS>>>
[22:15:38] <sueastside> azaghal: ?
[22:15:46] <azaghal> Still got keyboard issues.
[22:15:59] <PK|London> i think you did, yes is quite cool
[22:16:13] <sueastside> PK|London: and the terrain editing?
[22:17:12] <PK|London> you mentioned it as work in progress. and showed me a screenshot, iirc
[22:17:20] <sueastside> azaghal: i thought you meant something like: for fuck sake how many zombie movies are there?!
[22:18:01] <sueastside> PK|London: ok i have horrible memory than
[22:18:39] <PK|London> azaghal: Holidays = those weekdays you don't have to work
[22:19:12] <azaghal> Ah
[22:26:00] <Tucos> sueastside: you didn't show me anything >.>
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[23:11:54] * azaghal flashes Tucos
[23:11:59] <azaghal> Mwahahaha
[23:12:10] <Tucos> ?
[23:14:45] <azaghal> You wanted something to see.
[23:18:22] <Tucos> ah, thanks
[23:22:42] <azaghal> Heh
[23:28:29] <Tucos> f'ing iptables :<
[23:28:57] <azaghal> Heh
[23:29:01] <azaghal> What's troubling you?
[23:29:16] <Tucos> dns
[23:30:02] <Tucos> i've finally got forwarding enabled, so lappy is connected to desktop is connected to internet, lappy can ping ips from the outside, but resolving dns won't really work very well
[23:30:18] <azaghal> Resolving DNS won't work?
[23:30:30] <azaghal> You're using NAT, right?
[23:30:46] <azaghal> Have you setup DNS on you laptop?
[23:30:56] <azaghal> /etc/resolv.conf or whatever you have there?
[23:31:11] <azaghal> You could also try with a command:
[23:31:21] <azaghal> dig majic.rs @8.8.8.8 or something.
[23:31:56] <Tucos> laptop is windows :p
[23:32:26] <Tucos> and dns itself works fine, dnsmasq fixes that, but firewall blocks requests
[23:32:44] <Tucos> now it sorta works again
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[23:34:39] <Tucos> i'm this || close to just opening the whole box up >.>
[23:35:17] <azaghal> Hm...
[23:35:32] <azaghal> Want to paste your iptables rules somewhere?
[23:35:45] <Tucos> it's got somethign to do with port 53 and 1024:65535 , but whatever i try with those, it won't work
[23:36:34] <Tucos> http://fpaste.org/WTgT/
[23:36:53] <Tucos> that's /etc/sysconfig/iptables ; http://fpaste.org/tbr5/ is iptables --list
[23:37:44] <azaghal> BSG on TV, I'll take a look at it probably tomorrow if you don't manage to solve it
[23:38:34] <Tucos> ok
[23:38:53] <azaghal> If you remove all those REJECT THINGS< DOES IT WORK?
[23:39:04] <azaghal> MINUS THE FUCKING CAPS?LOCK DUE TO KEYBOAR ISSUES _>_
[23:44:54] <Tucos> lemme try, i think it's due to the FORWARD table dropping them
[23:46:52] <Tucos> that works indeed, as those are the default drop thingies that make up the whole firewall :p
[23:48:05] <Tucos> hm, i think i can do with the forward table not rejecting anything
[23:48:25] <Tucos> except that that ofcourse doesn't work :<<<
[23:52:26] <Tucos> wth, system-config-firewall put exactly the same rule in iptables and then it suddenldy owrks :s
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