[00:08:10] <azaghal> sueastside: http://www.linagora.com/English - they have office in Brussels.
[00:08:17] <azaghal> And might buy Mandriva
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[00:15:17] <azaghal> Night ;)
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[01:36:36] <LinuxDonald> http://www.wolfire.com/humble
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[04:20:55] <k2> http://www.wolfire.com/humble
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[07:10:30] <Vornne> azaghal: you can pass const shared_ptr<T>& as an argument to a function safely, unless the ref is stored to be used after the function has returned: in that case just store a copy
[07:11:36] <Vornne> const shared_ptr won't make the access to the object const (just like a pointer) to do that you need to use shared_ptr<const T> (or const shared_ptr<const T>&)
[07:13:00] <Vornne> the const version can be constructed from non of the same class, e.g. "shared_ptr<T> p1(...); shared_ptr<const T> p2(p1);"
[07:14:29] <Vornne> whether you pass shared_ptr function args as const& or not probably doesn't matter very much, as copying should be fairly quick compared to most things
[07:15:27] <Vornne> though there might be some cases in performance critical code where const refs are best
[07:17:09] <thebolt> in such cases I think the right thing is to send a pointer
[07:17:42] <thebolt> shared_ptr (just like csRef etc) also has a semantical implication.. it is about transfering/sharing ownership
[07:19:14] <Vornne> possibly... though you can't get back the shared_ptr without the enable_shared_from_this hacks
[07:20:55] <thebolt> no, but i mean if you are semantically supposed to transfer/share ownership, send a shared_ptr, if you are not, don't
[07:21:05] <thebolt> and usually you don't share ownership in tight inner loops etc ;)
[07:21:14] <Vornne> I often send refs rather than pointers if I can, to make plain checking = 0 is not needed
[07:22:18] <thebolt> well, that is a different thing
[07:22:29] <thebolt> a reference to a shared_ptr you still have to null-check btw ;)
[07:22:37] <Vornne> sure
[07:22:42] <thebolt> but a const T& is as fast as a T*
[07:22:52] <thebolt> and semantically equivalent
[07:23:37] <Vornne> just in cases where the code is not supposed to worry about memory management I try to use refs
[07:30:34] <Vornne> btw thebolt, have you done any foss game programming lately, or is it mostly a thing of the past now? like DS and stuff
[07:31:30] <Vornne> not blaming you; I'm not exactly very active myself atm... though hope to get back into it sometime
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[07:34:26] <thebolt> haven't done anything in the last 1½ years
[07:34:44] <Vornne> ah ok
[07:34:45] <thebolt> and don't feel like doing it either.. don't feel any attraction to graphics or games at all (atm)
[07:35:06] <Vornne> fair enough
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[08:58:35] <sueastside> hey honey
[08:58:43] <sueastside> not you PK , circeavalon
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[11:13:47] <PK> Hi sueastside
[11:14:07] <sueastside> hey PK
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[16:03:12] <sueastside> i'm gonna kill this teacher, she keeps saying linkhit list (linkedlist)
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[16:18:09] <thebolt> hehe
[16:26:57] <brankom> sueastside: How old is she?
[16:28:38] <sueastside> brankom: older then you
[16:28:43] <brankom> Drats
[16:28:47] <brankom> Double-age?
[16:29:04] <sueastside> i dont know
[16:29:14] <brankom> :)
[16:30:09] <sueastside> im not gonna go "hey this serbian dude from the internet wants to know how old you are cause you can code a bit and you excell at raping the english language!"
[16:32:21] <DoctorXanadu> o.O
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[16:48:02] <thebolt> hehe
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[17:11:17] <brankom> sueastside: rofl
[17:11:35] <brankom> Well, I thought you'd made an estimation of age at least :)
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[18:27:41] <azaghal> Yo
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[18:51:09] <azaghal> sueastside: http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-laser-cool
[18:59:23] <azaghal> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/05/canonical_h264_video/
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[20:29:37] <sueastside> azaghal: neccessary evil to be mainstream i guess
[20:30:00] <azaghal> sueastside: That's how it all starts...
[20:31:02] <sueastside> azaghal: as long as they dont add encoding support, all is well :)
[20:31:16] <azaghal> The problem is...
[20:31:30] <azaghal> I download Ubuntu from their site - and then what?
[20:31:41] <azaghal> Did I break their patent by doing that?
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[20:34:27] <sueastside> circeavalon: why were you born in 1995?
[20:34:42] <circeavalon> I wasn't
[20:35:29] <sueastside> circeavalon: and why do you have blue eyes? and why is kerri your mother?
[20:35:46] <circeavalon> I don't and kerri isn't my mother
[20:38:38] <azaghal> sueastside: You had drugs again?
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[21:03:11] <circeavalon> azaghal, yeah, some good shit by the looks of it
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[21:07:03] <sueastside> Lanii: We don't take kindly to your kind around here!
[21:07:34] <Lanii> shut up and talk to your girlfriend sueastside
[21:07:41] <thebolt> Hi guys and girls
[21:08:01] <circeavalon> hi thebolt
[21:08:13] <sueastside> Lanii: stop your foul whining you filthy piece of distended rectum!
[21:08:29] <circeavalon> it's not distended
[21:08:35] <Lanii> ew..
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[21:21:41] * sueastside throws a nemo at Lanii
[21:22:05] <Lanii> hmm
[21:27:47] * circeavalon is blonde and her boyfriend likes brunettes
[21:28:08] <circeavalon> ;(
[21:28:50] <azaghal> circeavalon: I thought you were pink or something?
[21:28:53] <azaghal> Or red was it?
[21:29:19] <circeavalon> I am going to be red when he gets here
[21:29:19] <circeavalon> I'm thinking purple or blue here soon
[21:30:45] <circeavalon> sueastside, you hung up on me
[21:30:45] <circeavalon> shitty internet
[21:30:45] <circeavalon> GrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
[21:31:21] <sueastside> circeavalon: actually i fall for small breasted cafe au lait with a touch of asian and green eyes
[21:31:33] <circeavalon> fuck you
[21:42:09] <azaghal> circeavalon: He _still_ hasn't checked how old his teacher is...
[21:42:50] <circeavalon> for you? he says her english is horrible
[21:43:15] <azaghal> lol
[21:43:18] <azaghal> Joking.
[21:43:21] <azaghal> Half-joking... -.-
[21:43:56] <sueastside> azaghal: you're half her age then
[21:44:00] <circeavalon> you are sick
[21:44:09] <sueastside> *than
[21:44:12] <circeavalon> he wants to hunt cougars
[21:44:28] <sueastside> in siberia, cougars hunt you!
[21:44:31] <azaghal> Sheesh
[21:49:08] <circeavalon> that's what your mom said last night
[21:58:22] <azaghal> Hm...
[21:58:32] <azaghal> I want to make a t-shirt with crapload of distro logos.
[21:58:54] <sueastside> azaghal: and get even less pussy, sure you could...
[21:58:55] <azaghal> The old Ubuntu logo was prettier -.-
[22:06:29] * circeavalon sorry for talking on the phone when I should talk to you
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[22:08:17] <circeavalon> poop
[22:08:24] <azaghal> :D
[22:40:34] <Lanii> so long everybody this'll be the last time i'm on IRC
[22:42:02] <azaghal> Why?
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[22:44:04] <azaghal> circeavalon: What was that all about?
[22:45:03] <circeavalon> Induane is making Lanii feel bad for reading the old public logs
[22:45:38] <azaghal> Huh?
[22:45:47] <azaghal> Why would that be?
[22:45:53] <circeavalon> yeah I feel the same
[22:46:20] <azaghal> He's teasing her, or she got upset for some no particular reason?
[22:46:25] <circeavalon> he thinks that she'll get the wrong impression about who he is
[22:46:48] <azaghal> I really doubt he can be understood as anything but a maniac...
[22:46:52] <azaghal> What wrong impression?
[22:46:56] <circeavalon> no, she didn't get upset, and didn't confront him and he's not teasing her
[22:47:04] <azaghal> Erm
[22:47:08] <azaghal> He doesn't let her read them?
[22:47:09] <circeavalon> he thinks that she'll think he is weak
[22:47:16] <azaghal> ...
[22:47:25] <azaghal> He's not weak.
[22:47:29] <azaghal> We're all macho here.
[22:47:40] * azaghal pours some more baby oil onto his chest and rubs it in
[22:47:57] * azaghal puts on a leather vest, and starts singing Manowar "Brothers of Metal Unite" songs
[22:48:00] <azaghal> See?
[22:48:41] <circeavalon> yeah he thinks it's rude, snoopy and nosy even he showed her where they were
[22:48:51] <circeavalon> though*
[22:49:26] <circeavalon> he said they were private discussions,....that are PUBLICLY LOGGED
[22:49:26] <azaghal> Well, he should've thought about it before saying stuff on public channel...
[22:49:59] <circeavalon> that's what Kerri said and he said that it was to his friends not to her and she shouldn't be reading it
[22:50:30] <circeavalon> it's not like he reads the logs
[22:51:47] <azaghal> Well, women generally like to read such logs :)
[22:51:51] <azaghal> Jenny did that too ;)
[22:52:01] <thebolt> i wonder when people will realize that you shouldn't do anything online that you wouldn't do in the middle of a public square with national TV live-broadcasting..
[22:52:16] <circeavalon> as Have I and you don't see my boyfriend freaking out
[22:52:16] <thebolt> (cause that is about the privacy you have in 99.9% of all cases online)
[22:54:08] <circeavalon> well ....he feels differently about it then you all do apparently
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[22:54:45] <azaghal> circeavalon: Not at all. I can just see him sending Morse code through the source code for help...
[22:55:04] <azaghal> circeavalon: Funny. And _I'm_ the stuck-up one :)
[22:55:20] <circeavalon> true
[22:55:28] <azaghal> Hm... I need Deepa right now... Can't find a decent PC-BSD svg logo.
[22:56:16] <Gonewiththemoon> The interwebnetz are forever.
[22:57:18] <azaghal> Not to mention Google is cataloguing your crap...
[22:57:49] <circeavalon> he's such a pussy...we are all humans and things change. We aren't the same people we were last week.
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[22:59:33] <azaghal> Yep, just keep degrading him in publicly logged channel :)
[22:59:39] <azaghal> Btw, how come he doesn't come online anymore?
[23:00:44] <circeavalon> busy
[23:00:53] <azaghal> Work stuff or personal stuff?
[23:01:00] <circeavalon> work
[23:01:08] <azaghal> Drats
[23:01:23] <circeavalon> that and he says you smell funny
[23:01:32] <azaghal> :O
[23:02:41] <Gonewiththemoon> Is true!
[23:02:51] <Gonewiththemoon> I can smell azaghal from here.
[23:02:58] <azaghal> You can?
[23:02:59] <azaghal> -.-
[23:03:02] * azaghal farts
[23:03:05] <circeavalon> yeah, like old cheese
[23:03:05] <azaghal> Die!
[23:03:21] * circeavalon coughs
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[23:41:36] <azaghal> circeavalon: French cheese ftw!
[23:41:51] * circeavalon barf
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