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[00:25:29] <iceeey> hi
[00:26:29] <josePhoenix> hi iceeey \o
[00:27:02] <iceeey> heil
[00:27:21] <josePhoenix> hmm... how does one have blender show textures in the editing window? I tried setting it to "textured" but all I get is a white solid texture
[00:28:01] <iceeey> perhaps the problem lies elsewhere
[00:28:10] <iceeey> perhaps it is you
[00:28:15] <josePhoenix> it renders with the textures
[00:28:28] <josePhoenix> perhaps it's you :| controlling my blender with your mind
[00:42:09] <Ind|zzz> josePhoenix it only will show up in textured mode if its uvmapped on
[00:42:10] <Ind|zzz> afaik
[00:42:19] <josePhoenix> mrehh
[00:42:23] <josePhoenix> yeah
[00:42:54] <josePhoenix> I used an unwrapping script, saved the layout as tga, and did some coloring
[00:43:00] <josePhoenix> but now the layout is gone?
[00:43:18] <Rolenun> hehe, it's out to get you jose! :D
[00:44:00] <josePhoenix> sure is
[00:44:22] <Ind|zzz> you sure your normals aren't flipped or something bizzare?
[00:44:54] <Rolenun> Induane! :D
[00:44:55] <josePhoenix> pretty sure
[00:45:05] <josePhoenix> I think it's just not using the same layout
[00:45:07] <josePhoenix> which is silly
[00:45:19] <Rolenun> jose normal? I'm sure he's flipped :D
[00:45:23] <Rolenun> er, flipped em :D
[00:45:35] <Ind|zzz> Rolenun !! :D
[00:46:32] <josePhoenix> fixed \o/
[00:46:41] <Rolenun> hehe
[00:48:54] <josePhoenix> modelling is easy |: texturing is hard
[00:51:17] <Ind|zzz> true
[00:51:26] <Ind|zzz> though getting some animations right is hared too
[00:51:59] <josePhoenix> well I haven't done any animating yet, I'll have some complaints when I do :D
[00:52:46] <Ind|zzz> hehe
[00:52:47] <Ind|zzz> :)
[00:53:13] <iceeey> what are you working on?
[00:53:44] <josePhoenix> iceeey, a warehouse sort of thing
[00:54:57] <josePhoenix> meh :S I just welded the uvs for an inside wall and an outside wall
[00:55:04] * josePhoenix goes to undo a few steps
[00:55:51] <iceeey> and what is its purpose?
[00:57:05] <josePhoenix> no idea
[00:57:16] <josePhoenix> broadly, to house wares
[00:58:10] <Rolenun> :D
[00:58:32] <Rolenun> at this point, buildings are probably required instead of just grass? :D
[00:59:01] <josePhoenix> who's requiring what?
[00:59:19] <josePhoenix> and grass is cool :D
[00:59:35] <Rolenun> no more smokey smokey for you!
[01:00:41] <josePhoenix> what the hell are you talking about? o.O
[01:00:52] <josePhoenix> I'm not adding particle systems :|
[01:05:44] <Rolenun> lol, if you dont know, I'm not going to tell you :)
[01:19:40] <Ind|zzz> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/images/Photos/ptgirl/
[01:21:16] <josePhoenix> Ind|zzz, sfw? :P
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[01:40:35] <Ind|zzz> joseFood whats sfw ?
[01:43:29] <CyaNox> save for work ... :D
[01:43:59] <CyaNox> owh and Ind|zzz ... (don't look at the pt site)
[01:44:04] <Ind|zzz> I don't get it
[01:44:12] * Ind|zzz goes to look at the pt site
[01:44:41] * CyaNox signs off
[01:44:49] <Ind|zzz> lol
[01:44:59] <Ind|zzz> why not look at it?
[01:45:22] <CyaNox> (thats the best way to get someones attention)
[01:46:51] <Ind|zzz> aha!
[01:48:05] <CyaNox> Anyway that was the last thing I did today ... nice finale for this messy day.
[01:48:41] <Ind|zzz> :)
[01:48:49] <Ind|zzz> you like them?
[01:48:58] Ind|zzz changed nick to: Induane
[01:50:57] <CyaNox> actually liked 10 the most ... but there is no peragro in it ... (or atleast not enough to make it on the frontpage ... :p
[01:51:01] <iceeey> haha
[01:51:14] <iceeey> that will be sure to get more players
[01:51:53] <CyaNox> Induane: You do realize that we will demand more diverse and interresting porn in the future?
[01:52:57] <CyaNox> urgh ... have to get up in 5 hours ... or well if I ever get to bed before that ...
[01:53:22] <Rolenun> Disclaimer: Cyanox's perverse viewpoint does not necessarily represent the views of this software or that of the other creators and participants....
[01:53:22] <Induane> lol
[01:53:30] <Induane> lol!
[01:53:31] <Induane> :D
[01:53:44] <Rolenun> :)
[01:53:54] <iceeey> lol
[01:54:02] <CyaNox> To bad it is not no ... :p
[01:54:15] <CyaNox> 18:53 :D there are more
[01:54:23] <CyaNox> :p
[01:54:39] <CyaNox> owh hhmmm ... my time is still wrong
[01:54:55] <iceeey> did you say... time?
[01:55:07] <CyaNox> yeah time
[01:55:10] <iceeey> yay, wiki is up
[01:55:26] <CyaNox> yes it was ... like ... eehhmm .. 12 hours ago or so
[01:55:41] <iceeey> well i wasn't really awake then..
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[01:57:40] <CyaNox> wb Induane
[01:57:44] <CyaNox> wb iceeey
[01:57:50] <iceeey> lol
[01:57:56] <Induane> weird
[01:57:59] <CyaNox> I should be less lazy and actually type some more letters
[01:58:46] <CyaNox> gn all
[01:58:56] <Rolenun> night hehe
[01:59:29] <Induane> night
[02:02:34] <joseFood> bye CyaNox, if you haven't already left >.>
[02:02:42] <joseFood> hey.. It says I'm fooding :S
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[04:28:14] <Tzuqris> hey guys
[04:31:28] <joseStudy> hey Tzuqris
[04:33:25] <Tzuqris> why no talking?
[04:34:27] <joseStudy> maybe they're all busy? :\
[04:34:37] <joseStudy> I did some blendering myself today
[04:34:50] <joseStudy> I remembered how much I hate uvmapping >.>
[04:35:08] <joseStudy> anyway, I don't think I'll be back this eve... so
[04:35:18] <joseStudy> good night iceeey, Induane, caedes, Tzuqris \o
[04:35:28] <Tzuqris> good night joseStudy
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[05:29:35] <Rolenun> night ppl ;)
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[07:28:21] <sueastside> *gone*
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[10:14:45] <Japje> Induane: lol nice chick ;)
[10:19:19] <CyaNox> morning
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[10:57:54] <thebolt> Hi guys
[11:00:28] <CyaNox> heya thebolt
[11:00:44] <CyaNox> thebolt: seen the website?
[11:01:20] <CyaNox> sueastside: Trac works again so you can add your feature requests for JohnTitor .
[11:01:27] <thebolt> CyaNox: no?
[11:01:35] <thebolt> or any change since a few days ago? ;)
[11:01:41] <CyaNox> uhu
[11:01:47] <thebolt> ah, hehe :P
[11:01:58] <thebolt> i did see the picture hm, yesterday or so though when Induane linked it
[11:10:23] <CyaNox> uhu
[11:10:39] <CyaNox> sueastside: ftp should be up again too.
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[15:09:52] <Ind|Work> :D
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[15:12:19] <josePhoenix> Ind|Work, \o caedes \o
[15:12:34] <Japje> Induane: i would be a jelaous man if i didnt had a nice gf myself ;P
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[15:26:11] <Ind|Work> :D
[15:26:12] <Ind|Work> hi
[15:26:26] <Ind|Work> Japje will she let you draw on her back and take pics?
[15:26:50] <Ind|Work> ;)
[15:27:37] <Japje> yes, but not publish them :P
[15:29:45] <Ind|Work> oh :(
[15:29:51] <Ind|Work> WHere are you from?
[15:29:53] <Ind|Work> I live in kansas
[15:30:24] <Ind|Work> CyaNox you around? The image on the homepage needs scaled down a bit - on smaller displays its too big and looks weird
[15:33:38] <Japje> netherlands
[15:33:49] <Japje> im CyaNox's boss
[15:33:56] <Japje> >:)
[15:36:15] <Ind|Work> hehe
[15:36:25] <Japje> well i should be anyway
[15:36:52] <Ind|Work> as CyaNox's boss can you scale the image? ;)
[15:37:07] <Japje> i could, but i delegate it back to CyaNox
[15:37:11] <Japje> ;)
[15:37:16] <Ind|Work> lol
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[17:27:39] <Ind|Work> :) caedes <3
[17:27:52] <Ind|Work> did you see the pt site caedes
[17:28:06] <caedes> not in the last days :)
[17:41:04] <Ind|Work> check it real quick
[17:57:15] Japje was kicked by CyaNox: Your no where near someone who could possibly be anything like my boss ... :p
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[17:59:25] <CyaNox> and Ind|Work I already scaled it down ... looks fine on decent screens so I'm satisfied ...
[17:59:56] <CyaNox> Ind|Work: Actually on my rather decent laptop screen it looks too small ... :p
[18:47:44] <Ind|Work> :D ok thanks CyaNox
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[18:48:19] <Rolenun> hey ppl :)
[18:49:20] <Ind|Work> hi!
[18:49:35] <Rolenun> Induane! :D
[18:49:41] <Ind|Work> CyaNox - it still looks off - cleared my cache and it still is not scaled right - my work pc's screen is max 1024x768
[18:49:51] <Ind|Work> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/siteshot.png
[18:51:06] <Ind|Work> Rolenun ! :LDF
[18:51:07] <Ind|Work> errr
[18:51:08] <Ind|Work> :D
[18:51:12] <Rolenun> lol
[18:57:03] <sueastside> Induane: i hope she can make it to the CS conference, since shes the official ptgirl now etc...
[18:57:17] <thebolt> hope there will be a cs conference ;)
[18:57:54] <sueastside> thebolt: how much was sponsored actually last time?
[18:58:16] <Ind|Work> Where will the CS be?
[18:58:43] <Ind|Work> I could have her do some crystalspace pics too
[18:59:07] <Ind|Work> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/images/Photos/ptgirl/ptgirl10.png is still my favorite though you can't see the writing
[18:59:14] <sueastside> Ind|Work: your contract doesnt allow that, its PT exclusive :P
[18:59:34] <thebolt> sueastside: well, the place we were, travel expenses for some important people (and living), the refreshments etc
[19:00:01] <Ind|Work> lol sueastside ok
[19:00:14] <Ind|Work> will it be in the US?
[19:00:28] <sueastside> its was aachen germany last time...
[19:01:06] <Ind|Work> if its in the US and we know far enough in advanced
[19:01:08] <Ind|Work> advance*
[19:01:13] <Ind|Work> we would sure try to attend
[19:02:24] <thebolt> it won't be US ever i am pretty sure about ;)
[19:02:32] <thebolt> or well, ever is a far time
[19:02:38] <thebolt> but in the next few years at least ;)
[19:03:30] <Ind|Work> Hmmm a Peragro Tempus conference?
[19:04:15] <Ind|Work> Wouldn't be a big venue but I'm sure a local university would sponsor a room for demos at least - a conference room. The town I live in has plenty of affordable lodgings
[19:04:22] <Ind|Work> haha
[19:04:25] <Ind|Work> plus my house
[19:05:01] <Rolenun> who're you kidding, you'd get em all drunk :)
[19:05:32] <sueastside> yeah not good, not much work will happen, wed just be drooling over your wife...
[19:05:38] * Rolenun giggles at the thought of that many ppl drunk on the lawn.
[19:06:11] <Ind|Work> are there any hot women who develop for pt?
[19:06:16] <Ind|Work> Ashley is bisexual
[19:06:18] <Ind|Work> buwhahaaha
[19:06:21] <Ind|Work> she needs more girls
[19:06:33] <Ind|Work> How come there aren't any hot girl coders ?
[19:06:38] <Rolenun> and we're back to too much info :)
[19:06:45] <Ind|Work> oops
[19:06:48] <sueastside> me and pk sorta look like girls with long hair, does that count?
[19:06:49] <thebolt> Rolenun: you are free to put Ind|Work in /ignore ;)
[19:07:00] <thebolt> sueastside: yea, you're all girlish ;)
[19:07:08] <Ind|Work> lol thebolt no need - I'll behave
[19:07:10] <Rolenun> if I did that, I'd be ignoring almost all the devs here then :D
[19:07:24] * Rolenun giggles.
[19:07:32] <sueastside> thebolt: dont make me hit you!
[19:07:40] <Rolenun> Induane takes up two of them online :D
[19:07:58] <Ind|Work> I do wonder how come hot girls don't code though
[19:08:06] <Ind|Work> :D Rolenun - I just need alot of elbow room
[19:09:39] <Rolenun> it's pretty simple really. Hot girls are usually socially active. They wouldnt spend this many hours in their basement learning to code :D
[19:09:57] <sueastside> Ind|Work: teach ashley, then wed know theres atleast one in the world...
[19:11:26] <thebolt> well, i know a few girls who are coding.. and some of them are not that bad looking ,)
[19:12:02] <sueastside> thebolt: invite them here, and whatever you do, dont be yourself when doing so, youll scare em...
[19:12:36] <Rolenun> it's also based on your own standards as to what is hot hehe. if you're a 500 lbs guy that sits at his computer all day, you've probably got a different perception as to what is :)
[19:13:00] <Rolenun> not directed at you specifically thebolt :)
[19:13:11] <sueastside> nice save there Rolenun
[19:13:21] <Rolenun> there are always the ever elusive hot girls that dont know it, but they are hard to find ;)
[19:15:37] <Rolenun> for all I know, thebolt is a wordclass athlete. that comment was in the works before he posted :/
[19:33:08] <thebolt> i'm not :)
[19:33:28] <thebolt> otoh, i wouldn't classify myself as 500 lbs guy either ;)
[19:34:21] <Rolenun> lol
[19:48:16] <thebolt> aka (refering to #cs..) even if i had time i'm not sure i would like to work on their project;)
[19:48:59] <CyaNox> I don't even have to look to know what project you are refering to ... :p
[19:50:22] <CyaNox> but nice to see him getting not to his deadline that passed hhmm ... 3 months ago?
[19:53:35] <Rolenun> well, his original problem was simple. He was being cheap hehe. He waited until after the deadline to even offer to pay the devs and now that he's after the deadline he wants a magic coder to swoop in and complete the task with unrealistic time requirements :)
[19:53:52] <Rolenun> btw, I didnt look either. it's easy enough to know who you're talking about ;)
[19:57:03] <CyaNox> Well he and his project is the most obvious black sheep of the whole CS community.
[19:58:16] <Ind|Work> CyaNox !
[19:58:39] <thebolt> hm, i should eat some dinner
[19:58:48] <Ind|Work> did you see the shot? THe image is still scaled weirdly
[19:59:22] <Ind|Work> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/siteshot.png
[20:03:19] <CyaNox> Ind|Work: yes I looked at it and decided to ignore it since 1024x768 is not a decent screen resolution these days.
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[20:59:01] <sueastside> thebolt: hmm how to set the csSimpleMeshScreenspace flag on a simplemesh?
[21:01:13] <thebolt> you don't
[21:01:21] <thebolt> you send it to iGraphics3D::DrawSimpleMesh
[21:01:37] <thebolt> (second parameter)
[21:03:24] <sueastside> aha
[21:04:21] <sueastside> you know of an example where a simplemesh is used somewhere (so i know how you setup all those vertices etc)?
[21:05:15] <thebolt> hm, not really.. but it is as straight forward as one would think ;)
[21:05:42] <sueastside> for a coder :P
[21:05:56] <thebolt> i count you as one ;) at least wannabe-coder ;)
[21:22:40] <sueastside> thanks for nothing :P
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[21:42:50] <sueastside> hey iceeey
[21:42:56] <iceeey> hi
[21:43:12] <Rolenun> hmmm, lol
[21:43:24] <Rolenun> hey iceeey :)
[21:53:48] <CyaNox> heya iceeey
[21:54:19] <CyaNox> iceeey: I bet you havent seen the pt website yet ... :p
[21:58:11] <iceeey> CyaNox, saw it last night :P
[21:58:14] <iceeey> you're wrong
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[22:16:24] <sueastside> Raella?
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[22:20:35] <Tzuqris> work if for people that have jobs...
[22:20:40] <Tzuqris> is*
[22:21:45] <sueastside> Tzuqris: thought of that just now?
[22:22:02] <Tzuqris> yes, because of Ind|Work
[22:22:33] <Tzuqris> amazing, the brilliant things that flow from my fingertips
[22:22:39] <sueastside> cant really call it work though, he seems to enjoy it...
[22:22:53] <Tzuqris> i dont recall what he does
[22:23:06] <Tzuqris> prostitution?
[22:23:13] <Tzuqris> i tried that once
[22:23:16] <thebolt> sueastside: you mean it isn't work if you enjoy it?
[22:23:19] <sueastside> http://pcdisposal.com/
[22:23:38] <thebolt> damn, then i didn't work at all last year ;)
[22:23:52] <sueastside> thebolt: yes, its more of an hobby you get paid for :)
[22:24:04] <CyaNox> iceeey: Yup thats me
[22:24:31] <iceeey> i didn't know you liked dressing up as a schoolgirl
[22:25:19] <Ind|Work> hardly working
[22:25:21] <Ind|Work> ;)
[22:25:36] <Tzuqris> Ind|Work, you should give me some money
[22:25:54] <Tzuqris> actually you shouldnt
[22:26:01] <Ind|Work> ?
[22:26:05] <Tzuqris> would be a horrible investment
[22:26:12] <sueastside> yeah he should save up to buy that plane ticket in the summer...
[22:26:18] <Ind|Work> I'm good :)
[22:26:34] <Ind|Work> plus I was able to buy the schoolgirl skirt and camera for my wife :)
[22:27:16] <sueastside> yeah well its like giving her a bowling ball, you get more use out of it then her :P
[22:27:23] <thebolt> haha
[22:32:12] <Ind|Work> and you'll be in the peragro channel
[22:32:14] <Ind|Work> ooooops
[22:32:24] <Raella> what did that do?
[22:33:24] <Raella> ???brant?
[22:34:01] * CyaNox hides
[22:34:37] <sueastside> try and not make it crash and burn, Ind|Work needs that pc to be able to model :P
[22:34:59] <Raella> telling me that???
[22:35:59] * sueastside hides
[22:38:21] <Rolenun> lol
[22:38:30] * Rolenun gives Ind|Work a shovel to dig his own grave.
[22:40:46] * sueastside starts engraving the stone
[22:41:56] * CyaNox wonders why the grave ... she agreed to have them public (or well thats what Ind|Work sayd ... :p)
[22:44:33] <Rolenun> hehe, I wasnt talking about the pics Cyanox :)
[22:47:27] <sueastside> something else is going on, i can feel it
[22:48:29] <Ind|Work> yes ashley?
[22:49:20] <sueastside> yes jelle?
[22:49:28] <Ind|Work> she said ?brant??
[22:49:49] <sueastside> oh though we were just saying random names...
[22:52:32] <Ind|Work> ohh
[22:52:33] <Ind|Work> I'm brant
[22:52:36] <Ind|Work> Raella is ashley
[22:52:39] <Ind|Work> :D
[22:52:42] <sueastside> i know :)
[22:52:43] <Ind|Work> real names - silly us
[22:52:53] <Ind|Work> yea don't know why I felt the need to point it out
[22:53:11] <Tzuqris> nope xchat says you are both brant
[22:53:12] <Rolenun> hehe, she used your real name, you must be in big trouble now :)
[22:53:18] <Ind|Work> ohh ho!
[22:53:22] <Ind|Work> err
[22:53:24] <Ind|Work> uhh ohh
[22:53:27] <Rolenun> lol
[22:53:28] <Ind|Work> I didn't call her a ho
[22:53:35] * Ind|Work quickly points to sueastside
[22:53:36] <Ind|Work> ;)
[22:53:47] <Rolenun> yep, all his fault!
[22:54:40] sueastside changed nick to: Induane
[22:54:46] <Tzuqris> feels like there i a knife in my side
[22:54:47] <Induane> ha no sueastside here!
[22:54:50] <Ind|Work> sueastside go to http://vaalnor.mine.nu/images/Photos/ptgirl/ and check out the ptgirl hat pics - you can't see the words.. but its better ( I already asked if it was ok to show those too )
[22:55:02] <Ind|Work> buwahaha screw sueastside - he is a loser
[22:55:06] <Ind|Work> high five INduane
[22:55:07] <Rolenun> lol
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[22:55:19] <sueastside> Ind|Work: you wanna repeat that to my face?
[22:56:00] <Tzuqris> can i do it instead?
[22:56:53] <sueastside> no
[22:57:06] <Tzuqris> thats no fair
[22:58:35] <sueastside> Ind|Work: well just shows more :) hmm 2 and 10 still my favorites...
[22:59:05] <Tzuqris> i should write on myself and take pics
[22:59:11] <sueastside> and your site is getting darn slow, she must be getting popular :)
[22:59:53] <thebolt> hm, lkml.org is also getting slow
[22:59:55] <thebolt> any connection?
[23:00:10] <iceeey> slashdot
[23:00:23] <thebolt> well, lkml.org is already a high volume site ;)
[23:00:35] <iceeey> even more the reason :)
[23:01:16] <Ind|Work> IT
[23:01:20] <Ind|Work> THAT
[23:01:20] <iceeey> it's surprising that slashdot actually slows things down these days since most people don't actually RTFA
[23:01:51] <Ind|Work> lol
[23:02:29] <Tzuqris> ah
[23:02:35] <Tzuqris> i'm gonna cut off my back
[23:02:39] <Ind|Work> ?
[23:02:40] <Ind|Work> why?
[23:02:49] <Tzuqris> i hurt it playing football
[23:02:51] <sueastside> he misspelled peragro
[23:03:13] <sueastside> darn too slow...
[23:03:47] <Tzuqris> sueastside, it looks perfect in the mirror... but when i take the pictures it comes out backwards
[23:04:21] <Tzuqris> i was going around the internet lastnight
[23:04:25] <Tzuqris> i found 5 pictures of me
[23:04:43] <Tzuqris> i didnt even know the pictures existed
[23:04:52] <Tzuqris> one of them is a very clear shot of my back
[23:05:11] <Tzuqris> two of them i am on my knees with my hands behind my back
[23:05:38] <Tzuqris> i wonder who took them i saw no cameras
[23:06:01] <sueastside> big brother is watching you!
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[23:06:29] <Tzuqris> they must know my plans
[23:06:57] * sueastside pokes Raella
[23:07:19] <Tzuqris> that is innappropriate behavior
[23:07:43] <thebolt> nah, poking is nice :)
[23:07:47] <Tzuqris> damn gstring
[23:07:54] <sueastside> depends with what you poke Tzuqris
[23:07:56] <Tzuqris> fuck
[23:08:08] <Tzuqris> hold on
[23:08:14] <sueastside> dont curse in the channel you fucking bastard!
[23:08:23] <Tzuqris> i might be buying a new guitar in like forr seconds
[23:08:25] <Tzuqris> four*
[23:08:33] <iceeey> what kind?
[23:08:52] <Tzuqris> havent decided
[23:08:56] <iceeey> okay..
[23:09:06] <Tzuqris> gonna have to be another budget guitar:(
[23:09:08] <sueastside> why? its not like you fucking play the fucking guitar or fucking any other fucking instrument you fuck face.
[23:09:29] <Tzuqris> says who?
[23:09:40] <sueastside> Ind|Work did
[23:09:40] <Tzuqris> bas, guitar, and piano
[23:09:48] <iceeey> acoustic, electric, nylon, arched-top, how many strings, types of wood, number of frets
[23:09:57] <iceeey> etc, could go into more detail if you knew which type though
[23:10:26] <Tzuqris> welll it's gonna have to be a budget guitar
[23:10:27] <Ind|Work> I did?
[23:10:31] <Tzuqris> so i dont get much choice
[23:10:34] <Ind|Work> :) I have a nice acoustic
[23:10:37] <Tzuqris> other than either acoustic or electric
[23:10:50] <Ind|Work> and Valbrandrs dad just painted my electric guitar - looks great now (he's a profesional car painter)
[23:10:52] <Tzuqris> between $150-200
[23:10:56] <iceeey> you can find cheap nylons, but they won
[23:11:01] <iceeey> won't be solid top in that price range
[23:11:03] <Ind|Work> a 200 dollar acoustic isn't budget
[23:11:07] <Ind|Work> thats a solid guitar
[23:11:22] <Ind|Work> you'll not get amp pre outs or a built in tuner
[23:11:24] <Tzuqris> not if you want a martin
[23:11:25] <Ind|Work> but in the end thats better
[23:11:26] <iceeey> i got my solid cedar top nylon string for 350
[23:11:36] <sueastside> i thought the point was that they are hollow?
[23:11:43] <Ind|Work> the neck sueastside
[23:11:44] <Ind|Work> ;)
[23:11:46] <iceeey> it's lasted me 3 years so far, sounds great
[23:12:02] <Tzuqris> i got mine from a pawn shop a while back
[23:12:05] <sueastside> details...
[23:12:09] <Tzuqris> it was junk then and it still isnt better at all
[23:12:12] <Tzuqris> um...
[23:12:14] <Ind|Work> My washburn was $300 and I've drug it everywhere - and I mean everywhere.
[23:12:15] <iceeey> actually I'm playing it now :P
[23:12:20] <Tzuqris> so what should i get at 200?
[23:12:25] <Ind|Work> And it has gold plated tuning knobs :D
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[23:12:30] <iceeey> you should just step up to 300 or so
[23:12:35] <thebolt> bah, stop talking about guitars.. just reminds me i should play more ;)
[23:12:36] <Ind|Work> I'd watch for an inexpensive fender
[23:12:37] <iceeey> you might as well spend a little extra
[23:12:37] <sueastside> Ind|Work: teach your wife some manners, she hasnt even properly said hi yet :P
[23:12:45] * Ind|Work pokes Raella
[23:12:48] <thebolt> (nowdays i play very little..)
[23:12:59] <Raella> hi sueastside :D how are you!
[23:13:02] <Ind|Work> :D
[23:13:03] <thebolt> Hi ;)
[23:13:08] <iceeey> thebolt, same here, although that means once a week now :)
[23:13:10] <sueastside> hi Raella :D !!!
[23:13:28] <thebolt> hm, second time we have a wife+husband in same channel ;)
[23:13:35] <thebolt> iceeey: heh, in my case it is probably once per month atm :P
[23:13:59] <sueastside> fine thanks, i dont seem to need to ask, you look fine to me....
[23:14:23] <Raella> oh and hi everyone else in peragro...
[23:14:23] <Tzuqris> iceeey, i cant i'm putting it on my credit card
[23:14:39] <Raella> :D
[23:14:58] <Tzuqris> that was such a forced hi
[23:15:01] <sueastside> now you made me feel special :)
[23:15:08] <Raella> haha... no i just dont know who all is in peragro
[23:15:21] <Raella> im not familiar with this terminal thing im in
[23:15:21] <Tzuqris> there is a list
[23:15:38] <Raella> yea... the only thing i know how to do with computers though is kill them :D
[23:15:47] <Rolenun> lol
[23:15:59] <thebolt> a very useful skill
[23:16:08] <thebolt> keeps hoards of computer technicians employed
[23:16:08] <Tzuqris> i know
[23:16:17] <Rolenun> see what happens when you leave your computer logged in Ind|Work! Your wife makes it look like the buckshot laptop :D
[23:16:20] <Tzuqris> everybody from pt can chip in and buy me a new guitar
[23:16:24] <Rolenun> now we know where it came from!
[23:16:36] <thebolt> they would all be out of work if people who breaks computers stopped breaking them
[23:16:47] <Raella> the buckshot laptop?
[23:16:52] <Rolenun> yeah, they just all live in India :D
[23:17:23] * Rolenun picks up the phone and yells I said my monitor is dead! Not my keyboard needs cleaning! :o
[23:17:26] <Tzuqris> my guitar lives to die another day!
[23:17:36] * sueastside makes a mental note to not invite Raella in his room
[23:17:44] <Raella> :(
[23:18:04] <Rolenun> Raella: yeah, it was one of the laptops Induane posted a pic of a while back. someone had taken a gun and shot it full of buckshot hehe
[23:18:11] <sueastside> anywhere else in the house is fine :)
[23:18:14] <Raella> oooooh
[23:18:28] <Raella> howcome? has your room got the computer???
[23:18:35] <sueastside> yup
[23:18:41] <Raella> ooooh...
[23:18:56] <Raella> yea... i dont know what it is... they just seem to screw up when im around
[23:19:04] <Raella> except brants... hes ashley proofed all his computer
[23:19:05] <Raella> s
[23:19:07] <sueastside> bad mojo :)
[23:19:09] <Rolenun> lol
[23:19:22] <Tzuqris> he obviously knows what you do to break them
[23:19:33] <Rolenun> removed the power button and encased the keyboard in a lead box? :)
[23:19:37] <sueastside> overheating prolly...
[23:19:41] <Tzuqris> i had to Jessica proof my computer once
[23:20:09] <Raella> :D yea that would be best...
[23:20:18] <sueastside> aha http://vaalnor.mine.nu/1.JPG
[23:20:49] <Raella> looks like something id do
[23:21:14] * sueastside starts taking backups
[23:21:26] <Ind|Work> wow 6 months and my toolbar for planeshift got zero downloads
[23:21:27] <Tzuqris> i'm not sure how Ind|Work can sleep at night
[23:21:29] <Ind|Work> everyone hates it :(
[23:21:32] <Ind|Work> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/images/shot01.jpg
[23:21:57] <sueastside> Ind|Work: or nobody plays PS
[23:21:57] <Ind|Work> anyways
[23:21:59] <Ind|Work> works over :D
[23:22:06] <Ind|Work> heading home to see a movie with ash
[23:22:09] <Ind|Work> later guys! :D
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[23:22:11] <Raella> yay... ill go get prettied up
[23:22:24] <sueastside> have fun...
[23:23:11] <Raella> bye to the people in peragro... and i guess whatever other channel thing im in...
[23:23:16] <Tzuqris> ps is boring
[23:23:19] <Tzuqris> i think i will log on
[23:23:24] Raella changed nick to: Induane
[23:23:32] <Tzuqris> see how long it takes to get stuck in a wall
[23:23:44] <sueastside> 1.3seconds
[23:23:45] Induane changed nick to: Induane_
[23:25:13] <Tzuqris> did they change something or is the server down?
[23:25:39] <Tzuqris> ah they changed something
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[23:56:18] <Tzuqris> anyone still here?
[23:56:58] <sueastside> ill check hold on...
[23:57:04] <Tzuqris> ok let me know
[23:58:07] <Tzuqris> well i think this is the best i can do :(
[23:58:09] <Tzuqris> http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/Takamine-G-Series-G440C-NEX-MAHOG-Series-A-?full_sku=512204%2e010
[23:58:46] <sueastside> ah not really something i know something about...