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[20:16:59] <Jekkar> talk dd
[20:17:14] <Jekkar> it's what the room is for
[20:20:08] <Jekkar> keep it limited to settings though
[20:30:33] <Darker_Dreams> I've got to get ready for work and other real life things now. Induane and I have moved on to discussion of alternate maps on the forum thread if you're interested.
[20:34:27] <Jekkar> I'm replying in a nice way if that's possible to believe? to your reply to my 2nd post
[20:34:37] <Jekkar> I think I at least have the right to set some stuff straight
[20:34:50] <Jekkar> after that I hope we can get on with discussing settings
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[20:51:48] <Induane> hola
[20:52:00] <Jekkar> hey
[20:53:32] <Induane> Jekkar did you see this I proposed? http://vaalnor.mine.nu/Downloads/Media/Dumps/example.jpg
[20:53:51] <Jekkar> sec
[20:53:58] <Induane> what do you think of a layout like that? Keeps things in the same geographical location relative to each other as they are now
[20:54:01] <Jekkar> yah
[20:54:21] <Jekkar> what about connecting all those and making a huge lake in the middle
[20:54:40] <Jekkar> you can get some settings revolving the lake
[20:54:49] <Jekkar> and instantly have a new area
[20:55:05] <Induane> well I was thinking the interior would have several ports and then the landbridge at the south would be a highly regarded strategic area
[20:55:06] <Jekkar> around*
[20:55:21] <Induane> could join up the top more though
[20:55:41] <Jekkar> and have you ever thought that maybe changing the way of the map can change settings drastically?
[20:55:42] <Induane> and then leave the opening to the ocean at the bottom
[20:56:10] <Jekkar> you're bound to meet some issues with previous setting if you're gonna change the layout
[20:56:21] <Jekkar> I just don't see why it should be changed
[20:56:35] <Jekkar> if you give me a good reason maybe you can convince me
[20:57:13] <Induane> well thats why I want to keep things in relation to each other still similar. you can still have the badlands area and most other stuff that is on the wiki with relation to geogography and such isn't detailed enough that it would require anything but the occasional minor tweak plus some additions about the sea in the middle
[20:57:58] <Jekkar> and why a change?
[20:58:02] <Induane> My biggest thing is that something like I proposed there I think just looks neater... I don't have alot of other arguements really.
[20:58:10] <Induane> At this point it really isn't that invasive anyways
[20:58:22] <Jekkar> then why are you worrying about this?
[20:58:41] <Jekkar> we wouldnt have these arguements if this wasnt brought up in the first place
[20:58:46] <Jekkar> it's nothing vital yet
[20:59:17] <Jekkar> what should be focussed on is writing stories, npc's dialoques quests and game systems
[21:00:20] <Jekkar> heck even PS hasnt got a map yet
[21:00:24] <Induane> No but it is something that will be vital once we start writing more stories and quests. I really wanted a cooler map than what I drew the first time I just didn't have any better ideas. I didn't like the idea of seperate continents but I realized that you can still provide some more geographical diversity doing something like that example.
[21:00:24] <Jekkar> let alone a land
[21:00:28] <Induane> PS has maps internally
[21:00:34] <Jekkar> hey connect their shit through forests or loading zones
[21:00:34] <Induane> they just aren't public
[21:00:41] <Jekkar> they*
[21:01:03] <Jekkar> I think you're just annoyed your map looked kinda bad
[21:01:07] <Jekkar> and you want it changed now
[21:01:17] <Induane> yea, doesn't sound like thats going to change for them anytime soon. We dont' need to worry because we're just going to teleport from city to city until terrain code is how we need it
[21:01:56] <Jekkar> what about just closing down the mapworld page and deleting what is on it
[21:02:09] <Jekkar> we can get back to it once we actually have some content
[21:02:34] <Induane> well, what I want to do though is create an art roadmap for tommorrows meeting.
[21:02:44] <Jekkar> unless you really like to waste time on needless discussion
[21:02:55] <Jekkar> art roadmap?
[21:02:57] <Jekkar> explain
[21:03:20] <Jekkar> like what to do and stuff?
[21:03:25] <Induane> something like: Finish Vaanlor and Keep. 2.) Start work on X, 3.) start work on Y
[21:03:26] <Induane> yea
[21:03:34] <Jekkar> I see
[21:03:36] <Induane> stuff having a good idea of what goes where would be helpful
[21:03:43] <Jekkar> well that is something we can discuss
[21:03:49] <Jekkar> and can help us at the moment
[21:04:14] <Jekkar> I'd happily help you with that
[21:04:33] <Induane> should we try to work out a roadmap to propose in advance of hte meeting or discuss it there?
[21:04:39] <Jekkar> but why isnt the meeting announced?
[21:04:42] <Induane> it is
[21:04:49] <Induane> don't know if on main page yet
[21:04:52] <Jekkar> no
[21:04:56] <Induane> but it is on the meetings announceing thing on the forums
[21:04:56] <Jekkar> thats where I would look
[21:05:36] <Jekkar> 28/10 ... 18:00 ... art and settings meeting.
[21:05:37] <Jekkar> ?
[21:06:14] <Jekkar> and whatever suits you
[21:06:26] <Jekkar> im watching tv so I dont know if I can be discussing much right now :P
[21:07:10] <Induane> heh
[21:07:38] <Jekkar> there's no announcement on the forum
[21:07:38] <Jekkar> so maybe you misread
[21:07:50] <Induane> hmmm
[21:07:51] <Induane> must have
[21:07:56] <Induane> I assumed they were new
[21:08:03] <Jekkar> I doubt there even is a meeting
[21:08:05] <Induane> since it showed cyanox had edited those pages
[21:08:07] <Jekkar> though you should make one
[21:08:27] <Jekkar> if you want
[21:08:34] <Jekkar> im afk for a while now though
[21:08:37] <Jekkar> cya in an hour or so
[21:12:59] <Induane> ok see ya
[21:22:36] <Jekkar> told ye ;)
[21:22:59] <Jekkar> I would have noticed if there was a meeting since I usually find it important to attend them
[21:23:58] <Induane> I thought it was announced like moments before I mentioned it
[21:24:07] <Induane> but I think I saw something else and misread
[21:26:05] <Jekkar> :)
[21:27:10] <Jekkar> you know what they say: kittens are always cute
[21:28:59] <Jekkar> I was thinking about writing up a calendar for peragro
[21:29:34] <Jekkar> so we can implement seasons and time
[21:30:54] <Induane> that would be cool
[21:47:08] <Darker_Dreams> kindof a hit-and-run thing that I've been wondering about, and you guys talking about calenders; how many moons does this world have?
[21:47:31] <Jekkar> I think it was 2
[21:47:33] <Jekkar> not sure though
[21:47:48] <Darker_Dreams> modern calender is solar (265.25 days), however the months are roughly based on the lunar calender.
[21:48:03] <Darker_Dreams> (then various rulers and leaders went through and screwed with stuff),
[21:48:05] <Darker_Dreams> kk.
[21:48:09] <Darker_Dreams> just thought I'd ask.
[21:48:11] <Darker_Dreams> later.
[21:48:47] <PK> I would like 3 suns... but I guess it will be troublesome with the light and shadow calculation :)
[21:50:31] <Induane> PK I'm using 3 lights in vaalnor for interesting shadows
[21:50:47] <Induane> ;)
[21:50:50] <Induane> for real
[21:52:04] <sueastside> Induane: what exactly did you change in the keep house you commit a while back?
[22:04:29] <sueastside> Induane: and whats the distance between those landbridges between vaaloria and kvalis?
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[23:09:16] <Jekkar> he's ignoring you!
[23:09:19] <Jekkar> the fiend!
[23:09:33] <sueastside> yeah i know, hes a real bitch!
[23:09:46] <Induane> hey
[23:10:20] <sueastside> Induane: scroll up 5 lines
[23:11:12] <sueastside> Jekkar: tell him to scroll up 5 lines
[23:11:36] <Jekkar> Jekkar: tell him to scroll up 5 lines
[23:11:58] <CyaNox> Jekkar: tell him to scroll up 5 lines
[23:12:21] <Jekkar> Jekkar: tell him to scroll up 5 lines
[23:12:22] <sueastside> Simon says touch your toes!
[23:13:30] <Induane> same window
[23:13:35] <Induane> I went up like 20lins..
[23:13:37] <Induane> what did I miss?
[23:14:08] <sueastside> 21:51 <@sueastside> Induane: what exactly did you change in the keep house you commit a while back?
[23:14:11] <sueastside> 22:04 <@sueastside> Induane: and whats the distance between those landbridges between vaaloria and kvalis?
[23:16:12] <Jekkar> he's ignoring you again
[23:16:15] <Induane> ?
[23:16:24] <Jekkar> :P
[23:16:25] * sueastside sighs
[23:16:27] <Induane> ahh
[23:16:28] <Induane> :D0
[23:16:33] <Induane> I fixed uvmapping
[23:16:46] <Induane> there were warped textures, parts that were messed up here and there
[23:16:49] <Induane> and only on 1 house
[23:16:53] <sueastside> Why are you ignoring me Induane ?
[23:16:57] <Induane> I'm not!
[23:17:03] <Induane> its crazy busy at work today!
[23:17:17] <Jekkar> Induane is ignoring everone today, don't feel special
[23:17:26] <sueastside> Haven't i been treating you right? havent i put food on the table!
[23:17:31] <Jekkar> :D
[23:17:41] <Induane> no
[23:17:42] <Induane> no food
[23:17:44] <Induane> I'm eating ramen
[23:17:46] <sueastside> For christ sake, i have needs!
[23:17:48] <Induane> can't even buy christmas presents
[23:18:03] <Jekkar> Top Ramen?
[23:18:03] <Induane> got the kids bicycles with some help from relatives
[23:18:05] <Induane> thats it
[23:18:08] <Induane> Jekkar yea top ramen
[23:18:14] <Jekkar> Topper Harly Ramen?
[23:18:16] <Induane> every lunch
[23:18:21] <Induane> except today
[23:18:24] <Induane> no lunch at all
[23:18:29] <Induane> forgot the ramen
[23:18:54] <Jekkar> Top Gun Ramen?
[23:19:39] <sueastside> They still make those? i thought people stopped eating those after they saw what it did to tom cruise...
[23:19:58] <Jekkar> :D
[23:20:39] <Induane> hehe
[23:20:40] <Induane> yes
[23:20:42] <Induane> still make them
[23:21:32] <sueastside> People should stop living in the eighties...
[23:21:37] <Induane> ?
[23:21:40] <Jekkar> yeah
[23:21:50] <Jekkar> he doesnt get it Jelly
[23:21:53] <Jekkar> he doesnt watch movies
[23:22:11] <sueastside> hes just ignoring me again :/
[23:22:34] <sueastside> What have you done for me latel!
[23:22:42] <sueastside> *lately
[23:22:58] <Jekkar> :D
[23:23:06] <Jekkar> EDDDIIEEE!
[23:23:11] <Jekkar> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELYYYY!
[23:23:16] <sueastside> I want halve!
[23:23:24] <Jekkar> HALF EDDIE HALF!
[23:23:56] <Jekkar> and we had to eat the toys eddie we had to eat the goddamn toys
[23:23:56] <Induane> half!
[23:23:57] <Induane> no!
[23:24:01] <Induane> half a bowl of ramen is all I can offer
[23:28:18] <Jekkar> that guy is for real :P
[23:28:53] <Jekkar> or you're being an ass again Ind
[23:28:56] <Jekkar> with your lame pranks
[23:29:05] <Induane> lame pranks?
[23:29:08] <Induane> about waht?
[23:29:10] <Induane> eating ramen?
[23:29:12] <Jekkar> no
[23:29:16] <Jekkar> maddok
[23:29:20] <Induane> maddok?
[23:29:21] <Jekkar> typically an induane prank
[23:29:24] <Induane> baddok?
[23:29:34] <Jekkar> whatever
[23:30:02] <Induane> what about him?
[23:30:22] <Jekkar> you're him
[23:30:24] <Jekkar> hippy
[23:31:21] <sueastside> I'm a hippy and m always happyèè
[23:31:23] <sueastside> !
[23:31:50] <Jekkar> I feel happyyyy I feel happyyy
[23:31:52] <Jekkar> no you dont!
[23:31:55] <Jekkar> *slap*
[23:32:35] <sueastside> AAAARRGGG IT STINGS
[23:32:53] <sueastside> Leave me alone alabama man!
[23:32:59] * Induane hands sueastside some KY
[23:33:05] <Jekkar> :D