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[09:39:08] <vknecht> hi
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[11:05:23] <vknecht> hi nev7n
[11:06:13] <nev7n> hi vknecht
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[15:38:53] <scd_hu> hi all
[15:53:46] <vknecht> hi scd_hu
[15:53:58] <scd_hu> hi vknecht
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[16:29:28] <vknecht> hi asantoni
[16:29:37] <asantoni> hello hello
[16:40:50] <vknecht> bbl...
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[17:29:00] <vknecht> scd_hu, found the cause or solution to the painting problem ?
[17:30:27] <scd_hu> no. I hava a lot of work i must do my job then i try. I dont understan.
[17:30:42] <vknecht> mmm
[17:31:25] <scd_hu> maybe cause the profile curve. But i make a totally new one. I will try to make a new path
[17:32:01] <vknecht> maybe put the .blend online and post the link, so that genjix can check...
[17:32:27] <vknecht> I fear I never uv-mapped nor painted anything
[17:55:55] <scd_hu> i just start learn blender because i want to make tracks for xd. :P I much more like wings or equinox, but i think blender a great app
[17:57:07] <vknecht> wings ? I heard a bit about it... I think orogor prefered it over blender to make models
[17:57:32] <vknecht> but iirc he still prefered blender for the tracks
[18:26:23] <scd_hu> Blender has much more features than wings3d, and the developement of wings is really buggy.
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[21:48:26] <asantoni> vknecht: do you know Marten Svanfeldt?
[21:49:06] <genjix> asantoni, thebolt on #crystalspace. we all meet this saturday :)
[21:49:22] <asantoni> ahhh cool genjix... I just saw he's going to be at the GSoC mentor summit
[21:49:26] <asantoni> so I might get to meet him
[21:49:39] <genjix> also res2k (Frank Richter)
[21:49:58] <genjix> asantoni, how come you go there?
[21:50:00] <genjix> :)
[21:50:12] <asantoni> I was a mentor this summer
[21:50:18] <asantoni> for Mixxx
[21:50:38] <genjix> sounds like a porno program :)
[21:53:35] <asantoni> hahaha
[21:55:58] <vknecht> asantoni, sure I do :)
[21:56:19] <vknecht> gonna meet him in the USA ?
[21:56:27] <vknecht> hi genjix, btw :)
[21:56:28] <asantoni> yeah
[21:56:37] <asantoni> if I run into him :)
[21:56:59] <vknecht> make sure you do :)
[21:57:10] <asantoni> ok :)
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[21:57:57] <vknecht> I'm gonna meet him (again) friday, to pick him up at the airport in Spain to go to http://www.crystalspace3d.org/main/La_Fibra_hackfest_report
[21:58:05] <vknecht> hi genjix_ :)
[22:06:36] <asantoni> ooo cool
[22:07:58] <asantoni> how long is the hackathon?
[22:08:23] <vknecht> well, it started on 5th, and ends near the 19th
[22:08:36] <vknecht> but people come and go when they can
[22:09:51] <asantoni> cool, that sounds really fun
[22:10:02] <vknecht> some people are there since after the CS conference which was mid July, and I'm guessing some won't even go back to their country...
[22:10:16] * vknecht looks at genjix_ ;-)
[22:10:35] <genjix_> no i have to go back
[22:10:52] <genjix_> when hackfest ends
[22:11:04] <vknecht> ah
[22:11:14] <vknecht> but you'd like to stay, wouldn't you ? :)
[22:11:40] <genjix_> yes
[22:12:46] <vknecht> asantoni, as you can see there, it's quite a busy period for CS these days:
[22:12:49] <vknecht> http://www.crystalspace3d.org/trac/CS/timeline
[22:13:08] <asantoni> wow yeah
[22:13:11] <asantoni> looks pretty busy :)
[22:14:39] <asantoni> anyways, I have to run to class now
[22:14:41] <asantoni> catch you later guys
[22:15:24] <vknecht> genjix_, had a look at scd_hu video ?
[22:15:42] <genjix_> yes
[22:15:54] <vknecht> any idea ?
[22:18:32] <genjix_> scd_hu, i think everything is ok there but i need to have your blend file to see.
[22:19:19] <vknecht> ok, that's what I told him, to put the .blend online and post again with the URL, but he was too busy with work
[22:19:47] <vknecht> and thinking about re-starting from scratch, which may not be the best idea I guess...
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[22:21:17] <scd_hu> thanks for your patience guys, but forget it. I started to make a totally new track, then i try to unwrap and make texture for it
[22:22:15] <vknecht> scd_hu, would be nice to find the glitch cause/solution, though...
[22:22:46] <vknecht> so that hopefuly you won't run into it again :)
[22:23:00] <scd_hu> but genjix i again run the same thing i get an extralong collumn to the last ring. ok i put it to my ftp w8
[22:35:55] <scd_hu> suicid.utca.hu/downloads/xd the folder browseable, and you fwill find only one .blend
[22:40:53] <genjix> doesnt work for me
[22:44:29] <scd_hu> hmm wait
[22:45:16] <vknecht> browsing didn't work ? well, worked for me and I could wget the file...
[22:45:22] <scd_hu> i just copied the link and get the folder list
[22:48:05] <scd_hu> genjix another question. I try to run the unwrap srcript on mac, but always stoped on this line: if set([x[0] for x in face.uv]) == set((0, 0, 1, 1,)):
[22:48:20] <scd_hu> genjix, still not works?
[22:51:39] <genjix> ok scd_hu
[22:51:56] <scd_hu> ok
[22:53:42] <genjix> is no problem there :)
[22:57:22] <genjix> scd_hu, scale the uv map down along y axis so it actually fits in the uv window
[22:57:44] <genjix> i don't know about mac since i dont have any :(
[22:59:37] <scd_hu> We bought a 30" display and i want to try the blender on it. Was fun :P
[23:01:02] <scd_hu> i was make a decision i will sell my wife and buy a new diplay
[23:01:22] <vknecht> XD
[23:02:37] <scd_hu> genjix, next i must scale the columns and the track textureing ok?
[23:03:00] <genjix> just vertically so it fits in the texture window
[23:08:01] <scd_hu> ok but what about the propotion of the sections of path/track?
[23:08:31] <scd_hu> or i missed anything on the docs?
[23:09:51] <genjix> no way :( you have to do it manually
[23:10:54] <scd_hu> np. :P thanks for your help. now i mst go bye all :P
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[23:34:26] <vknecht> genjix, iAmirSkeletonAnimationMixerNode ? XD
[23:34:43] <genjix> yeah to stop conflicts with iSkeleton*
[23:35:23] <vknecht> sounds a bit funny... :)
[23:36:42] <genjix> s/Amir// :)
[23:37:39] <vknecht> anyway, how is your branch related to nev7n's research at http://www.crystalspace3d.org/trac/CS/wiki/new%20animation%20system ?
[23:38:09] <vknecht> is it just an overhaul of "old" system, or the real meat of that new system, or what ?
[23:39:34] <genjix> i don't know
[23:39:59] <vknecht> uh, mmm
[23:40:48] <vknecht> isn't there a risk that your work on that is lost or ends up not being used at all ?
[23:40:56] <genjix> probably
[23:51:29] <vknecht> genjix, just to share my thoughts on it, it might be better to collaborate more closely with nev7n on new anim system, then; just my 2 euro cents, though
[23:51:50] <genjix> euro cents? :P
[23:51:50] <nev7n> hi genjix, vknecht
[23:51:56] <genjix> hi nev7n
[23:52:01] <nev7n> that's foreign money ;)
[23:52:08] * vknecht woke nev7n up :)
[23:52:17] * nev7n yawns
[23:52:24] <nev7n> yes - was just snoozing
[23:52:34] <vknecht> ah, yes, you islanders don't use euros...
[23:52:44] <nev7n> genjix, thx for your post on crystal develop - had some good ideas in there
[23:52:49] <vknecht> shame on you XD
[23:53:04] <nev7n> I hadn't thought about the fact you might want to leave a gap when blending in a looped animation
[23:53:05] <genjix> well its not that
[23:53:29] <nev7n> you playing around with your mixer tree idea?
[23:54:20] <genjix> i wasnt sure whether any is working on animation already
[23:54:57] <genjix> but it looks like you are and theres some conflict
[23:55:46] <nev7n> I haven't written any code yet - just sketching out how the api might work
[23:56:26] <nev7n> we should take a look at where we conflict and choose the best options from each
[23:56:34] <genjix> whether to collaborate
[23:56:52] <genjix> im cool if you want to write (so i will stop, duplication is wasteful)
[23:57:29] <vknecht> nev7n, maybe you could add a section with links to the papers you read, and write comments about them, so that other prople can follow your process more closely, and comment there too ?
[23:58:12] <nev7n> vknecht - mostly I thought about what I would want an animation API to do
[23:58:30] <nev7n> I did look at some papers but nothing stood out as being very useful
[23:59:05] <nev7n> I did look at some animation APIs for ideas - I'll link them
[23:59:13] <genjix> so you want to work on same or not?
[23:59:45] <nev7n> I'd like to do some work on the animation
[23:59:50] <nev7n> I don't need to do all of it though