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[09:15:31] <renaud> Hello
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[11:14:44] <scd_too> hi all
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[13:01:38] <vknecht> hi :)
[13:02:24] <nev7n> hi vknecht
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[15:19:48] <vknecht> hi asantoni
[15:20:03] <asantoni> hi vince
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[17:31:40] <vknecht> wb nev7n :)
[17:32:04] <nev7n> thanks vknecht :)
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[18:13:05] <vknecht> welcome DuFfY :)
[18:13:20] <DuFfY> cheers :)
[18:13:36] <DuFfY> having another looking at ecksdee
[18:13:41] <DuFfY> still receiving the same error
[18:13:48] <DuFfY> im running under windows
[18:13:55] <vknecht> do you have pfzone.dll in CEL dir ?
[18:14:16] <DuFfY> yep
[18:15:01] <vknecht> mmm, really strange. Can you paste entire output at http://rafb.net/paste ?
[18:17:12] <DuFfY> http://rafb.net/p/qgNxFj26.html thats just the output from the console window
[18:18:34] <DuFfY> is it possible to run it using the latest celstart binary package? i haven't tried the precompiled ones
[18:18:42] <vknecht> what is PYTHONPATH set to ? (echo %PYTHONPATH% I think)
[18:19:08] <vknecht> and does it change something if you launch with python executable on cmdline ? like
[18:19:20] <vknecht> C:\Python24\python.exe ecksdee.py
[18:19:21] <DuFfY> I:\celstart\;I:\CS\;I:\celstart\ecksdee\data\scripts\
[18:20:03] <DuFfY> produces the same result
[18:20:21] <vknecht> nope about binary celstart, at least those on CS web site
[18:20:30] <vknecht> really need 1.2 or very close
[18:20:46] <DuFfY> ok
[18:20:50] <vknecht> does I:\celstart\ contain your build of CEL ?
[18:20:59] <DuFfY> yeah it does
[18:21:11] <DuFfY> i was trying celstart for a while and haven't renamed the folders
[18:21:15] <DuFfY> might start fresh
[18:21:38] <vknecht> mmm
[18:21:56] <vknecht> and you should be in XD's directory when launching it I think
[18:22:16] <vknecht> not sure, just never tried ;-)
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[19:23:41] <DuFfY`> ok i've done a full rebuild of the latest CS and CEL, am running python 2.4 and have setup my PYTHONPATH variable
[19:23:46] <DuFfY`> now i get: crystalspace.application.celstart: Can't load behaviour layer 'blpython' with id 'cel.behaviourlayer.python'!
[19:23:51] <DuFfY`> :'(
[19:25:27] <vknecht> well, do your CS and CEL have python support ? ie. _blcel.dll in CEL directory
[19:25:38] <vknecht> and _cspace.dll in CS dir
[19:26:12] <vknecht> and latest means latest 1.2 SVN branch ?
[19:26:43] <vknecht> if you got trunk, I think I know the fix
[19:26:59] <DuFfY`> latest SVN branch, yeah
[19:27:01] <DuFfY`> but not trunk
[19:27:18] <vknecht> ok; do you have the dlls ?
[19:27:29] <DuFfY`> doesn't appear so
[19:27:59] <vknecht> something went wrong, then
[19:28:20] <vknecht> what OS and compiler ?
[19:29:08] <DuFfY`> winxp + vs7.1
[19:30:44] <vknecht> DuFfY`, did you build libcrystalspace_python and plgcspython solutions ?
[19:30:55] <vknecht> (in CS)
[19:31:39] <vknecht> DuFfY`, I think they're not enabled by default in MSVC project files
[19:33:05] <DuFfY`> oh man
[19:33:23] <DuFfY`> thats probably it thanks
[19:34:11] <vknecht> if that goes well, then you'll probably need to find a similar solution in CEL project files for blcelc
[19:54:09] <scd_too> vknecht, if a track has 3500 faces is ok or too much. Only the track wo the terrain etc
[19:54:55] <vknecht> I guess it's OK, since a single model could have that
[19:55:09] <vknecht> but only experimentation will tell for sure ;-)
[19:56:08] <scd_too> ok. i just try too keep low of the number of polys.
[19:56:08] <vknecht> have any screenshot yet ?
[19:56:19] <vknecht> that's a good thing :)
[19:56:39] <scd_too> wo textures. This time i make the seams for UV unwrapping
[19:57:15] <scd_too> i hope it will be a smal fast wipeout like racetrack
[19:57:18] <vknecht> ok np
[19:59:04] <vknecht> I hope too :) I'm eager to see a new track in Ecksdee :)
[19:59:56] <vknecht> I'm beginning to use Blender a little, to re-export ships, and perhaps will fiddle them a bit
[20:00:35] <vknecht> I also should export the City map again, to clean and optimize it a bit
[20:03:58] <scd_too> http://suicid.utca.hu/downloads/xd/out.ogg be hars - what do you think
[20:04:41] <vknecht> dowloading...
[20:04:57] <vknecht> it's a bit slow because I'm heavily using svn atm...
[20:05:16] <vknecht> what is it exactly ?
[20:05:20] <scd_too> and my provider no too fast
[20:05:33] <scd_too> a screencapture of blender
[20:05:59] <vknecht> an .ogg file ? thought it was a music/song
[20:06:29] <scd_too> ogg not just audio
[20:06:43] <vknecht> oh, a video ...
[20:07:23] <vknecht> cool :)
[20:07:56] <scd_too> i use the ekiben model to reference i hope will be ok
[20:08:16] <vknecht> for the size ?
[20:08:20] <scd_too> yes
[20:08:40] <vknecht> it's not too different from others, I thing it should be ok
[20:09:14] <scd_too> and i grab the track profile from ciy plus make it a little wider
[20:09:38] <scd_too> so i hope it will be correct size
[20:10:29] <vknecht> should be, especially since there should be more than one ship one that track :)
[20:15:44] <DuFfY`> ok i have cspython.dll in the CS directory now
[20:15:51] <vknecht> I guess I'll have to re-check all checkpoint stuff in the next days, and prolly make a wiki page about them
[20:15:52] <DuFfY`> getting somewhere hopefully :P
[20:16:01] <vknecht> DuFfY`, good :)
[20:16:14] <vknecht> also _cspace.so ?
[20:16:21] <vknecht> er, .dll :)
[20:16:43] <DuFfY`> _cspace.pyd
[20:16:52] <DuFfY`> is the other new file
[20:16:53] <DuFfY`> hrmm
[20:17:17] <vknecht> ok, not sure what pyd is exactly
[20:17:38] <scd_too> vknecht, good idea because i still confused about entitys
[20:18:59] <vknecht> for other tracks, they were added manually; was not too hard though
[20:20:21] <scd_too> hehe. you dont know me ; )
[20:21:22] <vknecht> well, I did it, and could do it again :)
[20:22:09] <vknecht> esp. if you put some null-meshes, so I don't have to guess the position by printing ship's position in Ecksdee, then place the checkpoint there :)
[20:22:24] <scd_too> when the hope dies last.....
[20:23:26] <scd_too> I will read the blender2cel manual and try to understand it. Plus if genjix have a some spare time i try to ask him
[20:35:02] <scd_too> vknecht, what is the maximum acceptable texture size in pixels?
[20:35:41] <vknecht> I think it depends of gfx cards, some accept 4096x4096, and others don't
[20:35:58] <vknecht> so, mmm, not sure
[20:36:36] <vknecht> should check which models support which size
[20:37:09] <scd_too> ok forget. i will make more separate pieces
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[23:32:27] <genjix> vknecht, we had a big marijuana cake :)
[23:32:30] <genjix> you missed it.
[23:32:59] <vknecht> did you eat some ? also, beware, this channel is logged ;-)
[23:34:12] <vknecht> genjix, anyway, plan for a second one when I'm here :)
[23:34:42] <genjix> bien le bonjours vincent
[23:34:56] <genjix> ca fait bien plaisir de savoir que tu vas venir
[23:34:58] <vknecht> qui est-ce ?
[23:35:03] <vknecht> Philippe ?
[23:35:07] <genjix> :)
[23:35:12] <genjix> oui :)
[23:35:23] <vknecht> bien :)
[23:36:16] <vknecht> même si ça n'est que pour un malheureux week-end, ça devrait quand même le faire...
[23:36:51] <vknecht> et j'ai l'impression que vous ne vous ennuyez pas :)
[23:38:32] <genjix> tu l'as bien dit
[23:38:50] <genjix> mais on accelerera encore qd tu arrivera
[23:38:53] <genjix> ;)
[23:38:55] <vknecht> :-)
[23:39:30] <vknecht> vous ne vous attendez pas à ce qu'on travaille pour de bon, si ? :o)
[23:40:24] <vknecht> btw, essaye de motiver genjix & caedes pour qu'ils répondent à leurs mails ;-)
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[23:41:20] <genjix> moi j'y croit
[23:41:31] <genjix> mais on peu "mixer" facilement
[23:41:35] <genjix> je pense
[23:42:48] <genjix> :-/
[23:43:34] <vknecht> oui, bien sûr, y'a moyen
[23:48:25] <vknecht> genjix, can you show http://ecksdee.sourceforge.net/testing/SCD_Track.ogg *video* to genjix and caedes ?
[23:48:54] <vknecht> it's a new track for Ecksee in making, by scd
[23:49:52] <vknecht> this video is ~ 6.5Mb
[23:50:43] <caedes> vknecht, nice
[23:51:20] <vknecht> hopefuly it will make a fast wipeout-like track