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[00:33:04] <vknecht> hi asantoni
[00:33:11] <asantoni> vi knecht
[00:33:14] <asantoni> lol
[00:33:19] <asantoni> hi vknecht* that's better
[00:33:29] <vknecht> knecht: file not found
[00:33:30] <vknecht> ;-)
[00:33:54] <asantoni> lol
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[01:30:24] <vknecht> bye
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[08:34:02] <vknecht> hi
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[09:10:21] <renaud> Hi
[09:19:38] <vknecht> salut renaud
[09:20:16] <renaud> Salut vknecht
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[11:28:14] <vknecht> hey nev7n
[11:28:21] <vknecht> back from holidays ? :)
[11:28:39] <nev7n> hi vknecht, yes - back from holidays :)
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[12:01:57] <murat> hi
[12:02:16] <murat> I cant start ecksdee: ImportError: No module named ioBaseInit
[12:03:22] <renaud> did you use the shell script ?
[12:03:49] <murat> usng the ecksdee.py
[12:04:39] <murat> ah, should I install althe files under ecksdee/data/scripts into /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages?
[12:05:27] <renaud> hum better wait for vknecht to come back
[12:05:39] <murat> hmm ok
[12:06:34] <vknecht> murat: add $XD/data/scripts/ to your PYTHONPATH
[12:07:20] <murat> hmm... is it ok to paste here 5 lines
[12:07:52] <vknecht> generally, follow http://ecksdee.sourceforge.net/wiki/wiki/Ecksdee_SVN
[12:07:58] <murat> ok
[12:08:01] <vknecht> yes, but can't check now, gotta go to eat
[12:08:11] <murat> ok I'll try the link
[12:08:19] <vknecht> back in 30 minutes or so
[12:08:52] <murat> ok :)
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[13:32:56] <murat> vknecht, you there?
[13:33:14] <vknecht> yes
[13:35:02] <murat> vknecht, I got black screen after host-->play
[13:35:04] <murat> http://rafb.net/p/xsdEJU53.html
[13:38:21] <vknecht> murat: first it looks like CEL env var is not set ?
[13:38:48] <vknecht> and did you go to the garage, like said at http://ecksdee.sourceforge.net/wiki/wiki/Ecksdee_SVN ?
[13:43:08] <murat> vknecht, cel env is ok and when I go to garage I can't see the pictures of the ships but I can choose the names then I click continue and get this:
[13:43:09] <murat> http://repo.pardus-linux.nl/sources/ecksdee.png
[13:43:15] <vknecht> murat: the fact that stuff like /config/gldrivers.xml and /shader/ambient.xml isn't found is *highly* suspicious
[13:43:41] <vknecht> murat: what CS & CEL versions ?
[13:44:29] <murat> 1.2rc1
[13:45:03] <murat> actually there are no /shader/ambient.xml and /config/gldrivers.xml
[13:45:05] <murat> files
[13:45:19] <vknecht> did you install them, or use them from build directory ?
[13:45:32] <vknecht> well those are VFS paths
[13:45:33] <murat> I installed them
[13:45:37] <vknecht> uh
[13:46:34] <vknecht> so, what did you set CRYSTAL and CEL to exactly ?
[13:47:02] <murat> under /usr/lib for plugins and /usr/share for data files
[13:47:08] <murat> and /etc for the configs
[13:47:15] <vknecht> echo $CRYSTAL
[13:47:18] <vknecht> echo $CEL
[13:47:23] <vknecht> that's what I mean
[13:47:41] <murat> null :)
[13:47:52] <vknecht> ok, so they're not set :)
[13:48:16] <murat> so export CEL=/usr/lib/cel-1.2/ for cel
[13:48:41] <vknecht> anyway, I saw that XD didn't support installed CS & CEL too well for now
[13:49:32] <vknecht> and export CEL=/usr/lib/cel-1.2/ is somehow wrong
[13:49:58] <murat> yep looks so
[13:50:37] <murat> so you mean the best way is to put cel crystal for excample under /opt/cel and /opt/cs
[13:50:49] <murat> so the libs configs data all the files will be in the same folder
[13:51:23] <vknecht> the best way for now is to use CS & CEL from their build dir, with CRYSTAL and CEL env var pointing to those...
[13:51:32] <murat> ok
[13:51:36] <murat> let me try then
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[16:33:16] <vknecht> bbl
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[17:12:41] <vknecht> murat, got XD to work for you ?
[17:13:02] <murat> not finished yet I've just start compiling cs
[17:13:03] <murat> :)
[17:13:45] <murat> actually I'm the package maintainer of cs and cel, so I need to find a way to run ecksdee in installed cs version
[17:14:08] <vknecht> I am package maintainer too :)
[17:14:17] <murat> cool, gentoo?
[17:14:23] <vknecht> eh, nope
[17:14:28] <vknecht> rpm
[17:14:49] <murat> ah, which distro are you using?
[17:15:15] <murat> did you make ecksdee rpm?
[17:15:26] <vknecht> sadly, I don't see XD being able to work with installed CS or CEL anytime soon, unless perhaps some hack or install procedure change
[17:15:57] <vknecht> well, I use CentOS (RHEL derivate), but the rpm spec file should work for any RPM based distro
[17:16:13] <murat> can I see the xd rpm?
[17:16:35] <vknecht> and there only .spec file for CS atm, not CEL nor ecksdee, so no RPM for those
[17:16:54] <murat> hmm so can I see the cs rpm? :)
[17:16:57] <murat> need a link :)
[17:17:54] <vknecht> that's what I do: http://crystal.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/crystal/CS/trunk/scripts/rpm/cs.spec?revision=27280&view=markup&sortby=date
[17:18:20] <vknecht> I don't really produce any CS rpm for any distro atm, apart personal test and use
[17:18:42] <vknecht> when it's good enough, I think I'll push it to RPMForge repository
[17:18:50] <murat> hmm you dont use autotools in configure?
[17:19:05] <vknecht> but any distro package maintainer is free (and encouraged) to use that .spec file as a base
[17:19:32] <vknecht> and, mmm, iirc Mandriva perhaps use it, or at least had a crystalspace rpm in the past
[17:19:59] <murat> here is mine http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/devel/applications/games/crystalspace/actions.py
[17:20:24] <murat> and cel
[17:20:24] <murat> http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/devel/programming/libs/cel/actions.py
[17:20:40] <vknecht> autotools ? well, there's a step which calls configure
[17:20:43] <murat> with this packages, planeshift works just fine without any configuration
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[19:24:47] <murat> vknecht, is there any "at least" littile tiny chance to run xd with install cs?
[19:25:09] <murat> if yes, I'll try to handle with it
[19:25:31] <vknecht> depends
[19:26:11] <vknecht> for example, when CS is installed, simply setting PYTHONPATH to $CRYSTAL:$CEL:$XD/data/scripts/ won't work
[19:26:51] <vknecht> but, mmm, in your script, you put CS & CEL modules in Python's site package, so maybe not a problem
[19:27:12] <murat> yep so it can find python modules
[19:27:42] <vknecht> however, if XD is put in a read-only place, I'm not sure how you can handle that without "pre-compiling" .py files to .pyc
[19:28:32] <vknecht> also, for cases where $CRYSTAL and $CEL are not set, I think XD needs a patch/fix
[19:28:51] <murat> lots of work then
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